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Ukraine to force another 160,000 men into military - official (www.bignewsnetwork.com)

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Kiev will conscript 160,000 more troops over the next three months, according to statements from lawmakers and media outlets. More than a million soldiers have already been drafted, yet high losses have left the Ukrainian Armed Forces plagued by manpower shortages.

The Ukrainian Armed Forces had around 250,000 active-duty personnel at the beginning of 2022, a number that rapidly swelled once Vladimir Zelensky called up reservists and forbade draft-age men from leaving the country.

This spring, faced with mounting losses, Kiev lowered the draft age from 27 to 25 and significantly tightened mobilization rules, requiring potential recruits to report to conscription offices for "data validation." These checks often result in people being immediately taken into the army and sent to the front line.

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[-] fox2263@lemmy.world 5 points 19 hours ago

It’s the negative connotation of the wording that I was implying, not the meaning.

Are you American or something?

[-] geneva_convenience@lemmy.ml 12 points 17 hours ago* (last edited 17 hours ago)

He is implying Ukrainians are not drafted Israel style. There is no 30 day prison vacation for refusing to obey. These people are thrown in the back of a van and transported to the battlefield to slightly extend what is already a lost war.

The west is not serious about supporting Ukraine to victory. That much should be obvious by now. Even the mainstream newspapers are saying Ukraine is not fighting to win now.

[-] fox2263@lemmy.world 3 points 16 hours ago

I’m not Israeli though. What is Israeli style. Israel is not being invaded.

Without sending troops, there isn’t much else the west can do beyond allowing deep strikes with their missiles which I agree should never have been an issue.

Again though, conscription via a draft while forced yes, is not the inference of the wording of the article. It’s trying to paint Ukraine in a bad light for having to do it vs Russia who have done worse for their manpower goals.

[-] geneva_convenience@lemmy.ml 10 points 14 hours ago

The argument is not "Russia good". Russia bad too.

The point is: any Ukrainian who is not ideologically driven to fight against Russia should not be forced to do so. Their deaths will not achieve anything meaningful.

This is a war of attrition. Ukraine has not received the military support required to win.

[-] fox2263@lemmy.world 1 points 14 hours ago

Hmm Ukraine can’t receive men so they have to use their own men. I don’t understand the argument

[-] geneva_convenience@lemmy.ml 6 points 13 hours ago

Ukraine can receive men. There are multiple volunteers from other countries fighting for Ukraine.

You too are allowed to go and fight for Ukraine. Are you willing to risk your own life, or admit that Ukrainian men are treated as disposable toys instead of humans?