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Israeli soldier loses it at Unicef while on vacation
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Sure, crazy video, but you don't know whether his girlfriend wasn't raped and killed by Hamas on October 7th last year. Don't just judge people from bad times they're having, as hard as that may seem.
Wtf does an innocent unicef worker have to do with hamas you crackhead?
You don't know the UNICEF worker and you don't know the soldier. You just saw a few seconds of video and know NOTHING about any of those people.
Everybody here is just seeing what they want to see. What I'm saying is, stop the hatred and the shaming and the online rage.
You don't know them either, so why pick any side?
That's what I'm saying, don't pick sides here!
your arguments can apply to any situation and mean that nobody should ever be criticized for their behaviour.
Is that a useful way to look at the world?
No, which is why you only apply this apology to people you want to defend as a result of your bias
So stop defending the person who was headbutting people and threatening to "fuck you in the ass" to people who mentioned a country lmao.
It isn't a hard line to draw you dimwit.
Its ok to beat people. You don’t know who they are so it’s ok.
So head butting is ok??
No it's not, but do you even know that is a soldier? This is just some online video, man. People just want to hate
People dont want to hate. But some want to walk about being violent. How can you excuse his behavior? Make up a better reason than «his gf might be raped by some other dudes». Why is he kicking, head butting and trying to punch people? Lets see a few and do an occam’s razor on them.
Maybe there was a conversation where the UNICEF worker said: "let's do a skit where you act like an animal and we film it because my parents have been kidnapped and are being held ransom under these demands" and the guy was like "no way I'm a nice guy" and the UNICEF worker pulled out a gun and said "I'm not asking" and the guy said "whoa man be cool fine I'll do it"
Then he started committing to the role so hard that he pulled the freudian slip and threatened to fuck the other UNICEF worker in the ass.
One must admire him not only for his willingness to help but for his dedication. Truly we were all wrong to assume the worst.
If he's guilty of anything, it's not actively pursuing more acting roles.
how do you know you're on lemmy? Maybe this is a dream. Maybe you're that soldier. Think before you speak
How do you even know you exist? How do I even know I exist?
What is existence?
I post, therefore I brb
The only hateful person here is you, assuming a connection between random people in a video and hamas.
What we can objectively see in the video is an assault taking place.
I don't see hatred in the comments but plenty in the video
So hypothetical raped & killed girlfriend by Hamas = has a right to shout at a volunteers for a UN charity organisation stopping kids from dieing of starvation and disease?
Be careful you don't break your spine bending over that far backwards to excuse his behaviour.
And you don't know that she was, so don't fabricate narratives to justify other people's shitty behavior.
Nah, Imma judge him. Zionist mind virus got him
The rape narrative has been massively overblown with little evidence backing it up besides racial bias against brown men. Did some women get sexualy assaulted, probably, was it widespread and systemic like the media is pushing, probably not. This isn't to excuse the disgusting behavior of hamas on October 7th, just saying it's more likely this guy sexualy assaulted Palestinians in an Israeli jail then his girlfriend being assaulted.
Just cause a member of a group did something bad to you doesn't give you the right to abuse that group back. If that guy's girlfriend was sexualy assaulted by a black person that doesn't give him the right to yell slurs and push around black people on the street. This guy wasn't yelling about hamas he was yelling at the idea of Palestine, that's just straight up racism.
sure you also dont know whether the girlfriends/wives/children of the Hamas members weren't shredded to pieces by Israeli bombs before they joined Hamas
I'm definitely judging a person that tries to trip and headbutt strangers on the street. That person is not okay to be in public.
Also, everyone let's just ignore this genocide sympathizer. It's probably a bot or a paid troll
Look, I get it. I read through this thread, and I get the point you're making, absolutely.
Always, always remember that we're all human and prone to horrible errors of judgement. We don't know the dude, we don't know his story that led up to this.
What you seem to be missing is that a past trauma is no more or less likely than a neutral or positive past. None of those excuse assault and battery. You can absolutely judge a person based on their actions. We do it all the time in jury trials. Him having had some kind of suffering related to Palestine or Hamas wouldn't mean he wasn't guilty of assault and battery, though it might mitigate things for sentencing.
Would those UNICEF workers now be justified in going somewhere, screaming at some Israeli bank teller and head butting them? No. And I think you know that.
I applaud your compassion. We should always consider such things in forming opinions. We also do not have to forego judgement because of that compassion.
Is it really good hearted compassion or is it mental gymnastics trying to blame Hamas for this guy being a dickhead?
Using "maybe Hamas raped someone close to him" isn't exactly "turn the other cheek" in the context of being kind to bullies
If that poster was being honest about it (a huge "if") the most logical explanation for somebody empathising with the perpetrator of an assault but not with the victims is that they're extremelly biased in a tribalist way and hence fully empathise with those of their tribe butnot at all with those a member of their tribe would be angry and violent against.
Or to put things in simpler terms: Nazis can really understand and share the anger that makes other Nazis be violent, never the point of view of the victims of the Nazis.
When seeing a situation like this a normal person tends to empathise with victims quite independently of who they are and not try and imagine reasons to excuse the violence of the bully.
Your comment has 50% more downvotes than my post has upvotes. In some way that is impressive.
Nah, nothing justifies just freaking out on random volunteer workers in public and assaulting them.
Israeli soldiers are an oppressed class
You literally should judge people from their bad times. That’s how you get the measure of a person, in how they act in the worst of times.
Also, if Hamas raped his partner does that mean you can just go and attack people working for unicef? WTF!!
Why can't you say the same thing about Palestinians?
Here he is, guys. Lol. What the fuck does a UNICEF worker have to do with Hamas? How is this normal behavior anywhere? That dude should be arrested. I'm guessing he's more of the type of guy that spends bad times around. It may be the I'll fuck you in the ass or the headbutt. Idk.
Not the first time he's been a tad one-sided on the issue
https://lemmy.world/comment/12792400
If my girlfriend was raped and killed by hamas I still don't think I'd support a genocide against the people who didn't do it.