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Ryan Girdusky clashed with British-American journalist Mehdi Hasan on Monday night.

CNN has banned a conservative commentator from appearing on the network again after he told a Muslim journalist "I hope your beeper doesn't go off," an apparent reference to the spate of exploding pagers in Lebanon that killed members of the Hezbollah militant group last month. 

Ryan Girdusky made the comment during a heated debate with Mehdi Hasan, a prominent British-American broadcaster and an outspoken critic of Israel's war in Gaza, on "CNN Newsnight" with host Abby Phillip. 

The guests were discussing the racist jokes made by comedian Tony Hinchcliffe, which overshadowed former President Donald Trump's rally at New York's Madison Square Garden on Sunday and continue to make headlines two days later.

As the debate turned fractious, Girdusky and Hasan sparred over whether the latter had been labeled an anti-Semite. "I'm a supporter of the Palestinians, I'm used to it," Hasan said.

Girdusky replied: "Well I hope your beeper doesn't go off."

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[-] ShadowRam@fedia.io 299 points 2 days ago

I'm still flabbergasted that there hasn't been more of an international outrage concerning those pagers.

The use of mines as an indiscriminate weapon are already frowned upon,

And here they are using them, scattered throughout a civilian population with absolutely no regard to who could be standing next to their target.

Un-fucking believable.

[-] CritFail@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago
[-] ShadowRam@fedia.io 5 points 1 day ago

Wait.. what?

I'm I reading that right?

12 people killed. 6 of which were 2 children and 4 healthcare workers.

But 2,800 wounded? So all of that wasn't even about neutralizing targets, but maiming?

How many were set off? I have a hard time believing a 12killed : 2800wounded ratio...

EDIT: Google says bout 5000 pagers

CNN: reports 37killked but 3,000 wounded.

[-] leftytighty@slrpnk.net 164 points 2 days ago

They bombed dozens of hospitals and orphanages across two countries and also started a starvation siege since that time.

There is no outrage left

[-] skittle07crusher@sh.itjust.works 18 points 2 days ago

There is no outrage left

This really hit me. As in maybe it explains some things since the internet was created. It’s indeed so hard to keep up.

[-] irreticent@lemmy.world 11 points 2 days ago

It’s indeed so hard to keep up.

I know it's different, but that reminds me of the Gish gallop.

"The Gish gallop is a rhetorical technique in which a person in a debate attempts to overwhelm an opponent by presenting an excessive number of arguments, with no regard for their accuracy or strength, with a rapidity that makes it impossible for the opponent to address them in the time available."

[-] OpenPassageways@lemmy.zip 11 points 1 day ago

Oh no... Israel is doing the Gish gallop but for human rights atrocities... this explains it perfectly.

[-] jatone@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 day ago

Yup with both parties supporting it. Such a grand time.

[-] pingveno@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago

The only people who had those pagers were Hezbollah members. Hezbollah has been lobbing missiles into Israel, killing civilians including children and forcing an evacuation. They picked a fight, why should there be an expectation that Israel just sits back and takes it? Don't get me wrong about Gaza, they have gone way too far there. But Hezbollah seems at least somewhat justified.

[-] ShadowRam@fedia.io 3 points 19 hours ago

The only people who had those pagers were Hezbollah members.

Did they have camera's in them to know that? and also know about people in the surrounding area?

Hezbollah has been lobbing missiles into Israel, killing civilians including children and forcing an evacuation.

And you think this is the appropriate response to that?

I get the Israeli people are absolutely tired of this shit. But what makes them think that kind of response isn't going to do anything other than bolster the other sides hatred/resolve?

As they indiscriminately kill more, they are recruiting more to the cause. When someone loses their kids/brother/father/home/etc. That just makes them having nothing more to lose, and join the war. People don't want to fight. People just want to live their lives.

Israel is the one with all the weapons/tech/money in this. If the Israeli people are tired of this shit, they need to look at a leader who's not going to perform actions that just increases Hezbollah's and Hamas's numbers.

[-] SkyezOpen@lemmy.world 70 points 2 days ago

There hasn't been outrage because blowing up people with pagers is actually the most targeted thing Israel has done in the past year. Certainly a step up from killing hundreds of refugees to maybe take out one hamas guy.

[-] WanderingVentra@lemm.ee 37 points 2 days ago

They killed children in that pager attack. Which I guess is part for the course, so ya, nevermind, you might be right.

[-] jagged_circle@feddit.nl 44 points 2 days ago

It was a terrorist attack. We must condemn all terrorist attacks

[-] EldritchFeminity 44 points 2 days ago

Not mines, IEDs. It was an indiscriminate terrorist attack on a civilian population using improvised explosive devices.

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[-] OmegaMan@lemmings.world 41 points 2 days ago

What's even crazier for me to wrap my head around is those pagers were a safer method for civilians than what they've been doing. They're indiscriminately leveling city blocks killing thousands of innocents.

[-] godlessworm@lemmy.world 13 points 2 days ago

well we know who could be standing next to their target- another brown person in a majority muslim country. IE, nobody western supremacist racist pigs give a fuck about which is why there was no punishment and there will be no punishment against israel for any single thing they do. if it were gonna happen it would have by now. it's not as tho once they get to that 300,000th dead palestinian suddenly the "rules based order" is gonna enact some of those "consequences for breaking the rules" on israel. not gonna happen. someone needs to dylan crooks netanyahu.

[-] johker216@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago

The conflict is not one based on racism, it's literally based on religion and at least 3 groups of people in a small area using their religion to justify the murder of others. Full stop. Jews are not white. Jews who were expelled from Israel and became Europeanized are essentially genetically identical to the Jews that remained. Skin color is not race, but making this conflict about race makes that individual racist

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