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Shouldn't be the question why students used chatgpt in the first place?
chatgpt is just a tool it isn't cheating.
So maybe the author should ask himself what can be done to improve his course that students are most likely to use other tools.
ChatGPT is a tool that is used for cheating.
The point of writing papers for school is to evaluate a person’s ability to convey information in writing.
If you’re using a tool to generate large parts of the paper, the teacher is no longer evaluating you, they’re evaluating chatGPT. That’s dishonest in the student’s part, and circumventing the whole point of the assignment.
Computers are a fundamental part of that process in modern times.
Like spell check? Or grammar check?
Assuming the point is how well someone conveys information, then wouldn't many people better be better at conveying info by using machines as much as reasonable? Why should they be punished for this? Or forced to pretend that they're not using machines their whole lives?
Sounds like something ChatGPT would write : perfectly sensible English, yet the underlying logic makes no sense.
The implication I gathered from the comment was that if students are resorting to using chatgpt to cheat, then maybe the teacher should try a different approach to how they teach.
I've had plenty of awful teachers who try to railroad students as much as possible, and that made for an abysmal learning environment, so people would cheat to get through it easier. And instead of making fundamental changes to their teaching approach, teachers would just double down by trying to stop cheating rather than reflect on why it's happening in the first place.
Dunno if this is the case for the teacher mentioned in the original post, but the response is the vibe I got from the comment you replied to, and for what it's worth, I fully agree. Spending time and effort on catching cheaters doesn't help there be less cheaters, nor does it help people like the class more or learn better. Focusing on getting students enjoyment and engagement does reduce cheating though.
Thank you this is exactly what I meant. But for some reasons people didn't seem to get that and called me a chatgpt bot.
Thanks for confirming. I'm glad you mentioned it, cause it's so important for teachers to create a learning environment that students want to learn from.
My schooling was made a lot worse by teachers that had the "punish cheaters" kind of mindset, and it's a big part of why I dropped out of highschool.
Lemmy has seen a lot like that lately. Specially in these "charged" topics.
the concept of homework was dumb in the first place anyways
wot? please explain, with diagrams!
And share with us all tomorrow
Make sure you show your work.
It’s the same argument as the one used against emulators. The actual emulator may not be illegal, but they are overwhelmingly used to violate the law by the end user.