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[-] AbidanYre@lemmy.world 11 points 4 weeks ago

Then that topic is a wash when deciding who to vote for. Trump is still worse on literally everything else.

[-] jatone@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 4 weeks ago* (last edited 4 weeks ago)

Incorrect, you can see Harris scrambling for votes from other groups the dnc has also disenfranchised. This entire conversation id proof that its not a wash. Its a net loss for the dems. There are only so many times a group can say but we're better than those guys whole doing the exact same thing as those guys before people laugh and tune them out.

DNC wants votes?

  • were is mandatory pto, sick days?
  • where is universal healthcare?
  • where is police/judicial reforms?
  • where is labor support?
  • where the fuck is my non genocidal option?

My vote was up for grabs by the dnc and they decided to stay the course. Biden lost my vote when he committed to breaking a strike and then a genocide. Thats on them. Dont like it bitch at them for running a shitty platform.

At this point the only way ill believe dems during an election is they have the bills ready to go and presigned by Congress

[-] AbidanYre@lemmy.world 1 points 4 weeks ago

At this point the only way ill believe dems during an election is they have the bills ready to go and presigned by Congress

And this is why they're not courting people like you. You've voluntarily removed yourself from the pool of potential voters.

Yeah, those things you listed would be great and if there were enough progressive folks voting instead of sitting on the sidelines they would be on the table once the Overton window for dragged back to the left a bit.

But instead we have "they're eating dogs and cats", "schools are forcibly chopping off kids' dicks", "kitty litter in classrooms", and Project 2025 up against basic fucking sanity. So unless you're an accelerationist there's only one sensible choice.

Or you can sit around sniffing your own farts and feeling morally superior while everyone left of Mussolini is getting loaded onto the trains.

[-] jatone@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 4 weeks ago

I dint particularly care if they court me. Harris can have all the policies in the world she cant enact 99% of them without democrats in the legislature ao they're worth less than the paper they're written on without yhose commitments. Its not like they have a job other than writing this legislation. Should have these bills ready to go with their signatures on them. Now that would convince me she can deliver.

Now if harris committed to arms embargo by upholding leahy w/ israel, or keeping ms khan, or promising to support striking workers with aid, id be all over her. Because she can do that.

You see the difference between me and you is i hold politicians accountable for what they can do..not what i want to hear.

[-] forensic_potato@lemmy.world 3 points 4 weeks ago

It's not "a wash". We are talking about the literal lives of people that are being ethnically cleansed with the help of this current administration.

I can tell you clearly think that's just a non issue that people can disagree on, but it's a historical event. And you can't just go "well then let's not talk about that and focus on the rest. Trump is worse on that". Sure, Trump is worse and is worse in everything. But that doesn't resolve the issue of the Palestinian genocide, does it?

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