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[Combat] Russian infantry are eliminated by the "Rarog" UAV Battalion. (imgur.com)

submitted 9 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) by LaFinlandia@sopuli.xyz to c/ukraine@sopuli.xyz

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In the face of death, the occupiers show their true essence. They throw their helmets hysterically, fight back with automatic weapons, try to escape, but get what they deserve. A forest of EW antennas on the back of one of the occupiers did not help to escape from the "penal sanctions" of the soldiers of the "Rarog" Battalion of the 24th OMBr.

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[-] JoMiran@lemmy.ml 16 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

I think a semi-auto shotgun would definitely be worth it. I think armies should also add skeet shooting to boot camp and have skeet shooting specialized troops in every squad going forward.

[-] thesporkeffect@lemmy.world 10 points 9 months ago

It just seems self evident, you'd think it would at least be considered. Every drone death I have seen the target is clearly aware of the drone and has had time to react and run.

[-] bluGill@fedia.io 7 points 9 months ago

Maybe. Getting a shotgun out, and pointed in the right direction is not instant. I can do it fairly fast when I'm hunting, but I keep plenty of extra paddles in my canoe so that after shooting I can go find the dropped paddles. I'm not sure if soldiers are in position to safely throw whatever they have in their hands. I'm also not sure if having a shotgun is worth the extra weight when they don't need it.

For sure this needs a military expert to weigh in on. Though I doubt they are talking yet.

[-] Jumi@lemmy.world 9 points 9 months ago

The resurrection of the AA-12

[-] partial_accumen@lemmy.world 6 points 9 months ago

Would Skeet shooting be applicable here? I thought a good part of the skill with Skeet was seeing the flight path of the target and anticipating where its going to be then shooting, but all of that in skeet is dependent on linear paths and no other change in velocity from the clay pigeon. Drones don't behave that way. They speed up, they slow down, they hover, they go left, right, up, down, backwards, forwards and seemingly random intervals.

[-] bluGill@fedia.io 7 points 9 months ago

I haven't tried my shotgun on real drones, but I would expect it makes no difference. Once you point in the right direction and pull the trigger the shot leaves fast enough such that I don't expect a drone can move too far.

[-] partial_accumen@lemmy.world 6 points 9 months ago

I wasn't saying the drone would move out of the way between the time you line up the target and pull the trigger, but instead that drones move so quickly and unpredictable that you may never get lined up on the target.

[-] bluGill@fedia.io 4 points 9 months ago

Birds are not exactly predictable (depends on the bird, geese fly in a V and are very predictable, but other birds are erratic), but I'm not sure how different they are. Either way, you only need a more or less straight path for about 1 second, and you get multiple shots. Though if the drone is coming at you it still have momentum bringing it to you and shotguns don't have much range.

I could see this working as a reasonable shot with a shotgun - but I could also see how it couldn't and so I want someone in the military to tell me what works. (I'm willing to try on a range if you supply the drones - but at the price of drones I'm not willing to try this myself - and it goes without saying I'm not interested in going to a real battle field with all the other concerns that brings)