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Stephen Starr in Hamtramck, Michigan
Mon 14 Oct 2024 11.00 EDT

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[-] 2ugly2live@lemmy.world 20 points 18 hours ago

I guess that just doesn't make sense to me in the current political landscape. We know the third party isn't going to get the votes, and we also know that Trump is not only not going to save Gaza, he's going to do everything in his power to make this country worse as well. Currently, voting third party is throwing your vote away. I'm not saying I'm in love with the system or that it isn't fucked, but we have two options this election. Neither of them is going to save Gaza, but I don't see why damming the whole country, as well as yourself, to a worse existence, is the more sane option.

[-] basmati@lemmus.org 9 points 18 hours ago

It's a basic philosophical question.

Say you find yourself locked in a room with a gun, and two people tied to a chair. A voice announces that if you kill one of them, you and the other go free, if you don't kill anyone or if you kill yourself, everyone dies.

Your solution to this, voting Harris, is trust the voice is telling the truth and figure out who is the worse person so you don't feel as bad about being a murderer.

Their solution is not being a murderer.

Maybe the voice is telling the truth, and thus the voice will be a murderer, but they won't be -- you would be though with your choice. Maybe the voice is lying, in which case they made the right choice and you objectively made the wrong one, the worst one.

Most humans, ideally, would choose to not be murderers, even if that means a psychopath does a murder "because" you refused to.

[-] Scirocco@lemm.ee 4 points 7 hours ago

This is ridiculous. The most harm-reducing outcome for actual Gazans (not to mention everyone else) is if Harris wins.

Because, either Harris will win, or Trump will win.

There is NO other possibilty and no amount pseudo-philosophy word games will change that fact.

[-] basmati@lemmus.org 5 points 7 hours ago

How is being genocided without restraint better than being genocided without restraint?

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