wow, I really didn't expect such a thought out response. I really do appreciate it. for me the sentence conveys the idea that despite all the effort put in, some undesirable circumstances have already occurred, and no further action can change them. but in the general usage, I absolutely agree that it is a stupid sentiment, suggesting that one should stop trying despite there being things that can be done. sometimes it's hard to keep hope in the world with how it is, but damn it, it's worth holding on to that hope if you can, and if it means you can at least try to make a difference in the world. anyway hopefully any of what I wrote makes sense lol