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‘They will vote against Harris’: Arab Americans in Michigan desert Democrats over Gaza
(www.theguardian.com)
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the stark contrast between the .world version of this post and this one makes me doubt that the lemmyverse has any stamina.
You mean the reaction (downvotes) in the .world instances, right?
I think the contrast reflects the real diversity of opinions, and not lack of stamina. Of course I am disappointed with the downvotes and the hostile comments to anything that might oppose Harris. But the level of discourse in Lemmy is a lot better than Twitter, FB, etc.
So I'm going to keep posting these to as many communities as I can. :-)
It's becoming multipolar, with right-wingers on the Lemmy.world side and left wingers on the Lemmy.ml side, and the various instances aligned with each and neither. The Lemmy.world moderators are also Zionists that allow hasbara but censor comments that show the complicity of the Democrats in genocide as "misinformation."
I agree that .world is problematic especially that Zionist “bias” checker bot and their tolerance of hasbara comments & genocide denial. But also I got banned for “racism” at !worldnews@lemmy.ml for saying China is committing genocide against the Uyghurs…
I'd recommend doing a search on lemmy.ml, lemmygrad, or hexbear on that. The only countries that have been pushing this line, are the countries that bomb muslims, and refuse to visit the region.
Muslim countries themselves, and the rest of the world, all of whom have sent delegations, deny that a genocide is occurring.
I know those communities and I don’t share their view on the situation, and it’s really not because I don’t have any connection to China.
So you trust what the ppl bombing arabs have to say, over the arab countries themselves? Why?
Being from a country that is essentially a dictatorship and where rivaling factions have been competing over who gets to govern and who are the good / bad guys depending on whether they’re backed by Russia or the US I came to realize they’re all full of shit.
Whether it’s the USA, UK, Germany, France, Russia, China, Iran, they’re all led by psychopaths who instrumentalize suffering for their own political gain.
I don’t know where you’re getting that bit about Arabs from because in Xinjiang they’re Uyghurs, not Arabs. And just because China poses a much needed counterweight to Western imperialism I won’t ignore that they’re the same murderous psychopaths just with a different agenda.
To me, any kind of nationalism is a cancer and if you ask me, the concept of nations and borders should be abolished, because I haven’t ever seen a functioning nation that is actually for the people instead of a ruling class.
Its more that you have internalized an pessimistic imperialist talking-point: your own country is run by sociopaths, and they tell you that every other country is too (whether they justify it being the natural order of things, realpolitik, or anything else. You should be even more skeptical when US leaders point at all their enemies and call them psychopaths, considering how many innocent people the US has and continues to murder. Essentially this meme:
In reality there are very few countries that exploit others, most want to work together politically and economically to better the lives of their people. Even the poorer capitalist countries, which are the majority, often have earnest leaders who are trying their best to escape the low-wage trap the imperialist countries have forced on them.
Here's an excellent comment by @davel on this.