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[-] Crashumbc@lemmy.world 8 points 2 weeks ago

Either you have no idea how the government works or you're lying.

Vice presidents have absolutely no power to affect anything at all in the US government. The only power they do have is to break a tie in the Senate which never happens.

[-] Saik0Shinigami@lemmy.saik0.com 2 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

You are wholly wrong.

https://www.usconstitution.net/vice-presidents-constitutional-powers/

For one, constitutionally they have several additional powers that you neglected to outline, not just the one you provided. This also assumes that we're talking about a president and vice-president who are hostile to each other and not actively working together, you know... how it originally was when #1 vote became president and #2 became vice-president, which hasn't been a thing in over 200 years now.

For two... https://youtube.com/watch?v=81gnQ4Xo9Wc&t=12m50s

Biden says: "She helped passed all the laws being employed now. She's a major player in everything we've done. Including passes of legislation which we were told we could never pass"

If she's so "powerless" then why is the President stating that she's been instrumental to passing all that legislation? You act like Biden wouldn't/doesn't listen to her. And if that is indeed what you're asserting, then there's no point in discussing anything further with you since the man himself said otherwise. Which does indeed include everything that he's assigned to the vice-president over the years. I'm a bit too lazy to pull up all the cases where he's said that himself... I'm sure we can agree that it's happened a few times though.

The fact that you want to make some assumption that she has no power simply because the constitution doesn't directly give her all that much in the form of power ignores the fact that Biden clearly relies on her quite heavily by his own admission. She has power. You're bullshitting me and everyone who reads your post.

Edit: Oh! and also... you stated that tie breaks never happen. That's funny because Kamala even exercised that power 33 times.

https://ballotpedia.org/Tie-breaking_votes_cast_by_Kamala_Harris_in_the_U.S._Senate

for something that "never happens" seems to have happened a lot. Nearly once a month for her whole term. So yes, you are wholly wrong on everything you stated outside of the tie break being one of her current powers.

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