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U.S. to send air defense system and troops to Israel
(www.npr.org)
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As I already told you, this conversation will not progress until you acknowledge that you lied about me supporting Israel.
And yet this conversation still will not progress until you acknowledge your lie that I support Israel.
You might as well paste random Wikipedia entries for all the difference it makes until then. I will not discuss a single thing in your posts until you acknowledge that is a lie.
Ah, doubling down on the lie.
But indeed, every single comment I've made here is available for analysis.
Like this one, which I made 7 hours ago (you will note that is many hours before you accused me of supporting Israel):
https://lemmy.world/post/20811402?scrollToComments=true
I assume you're now going to triple down on the lie, but if you want to acknowledge you lied like an adult, this conversation can move past your lying.
I thought you'd triple down on your lie that I support Israel despite a link and a screenshot to me literally saying Israel should be kicked out of the UN at least until they have a non-genocidal government.
Amazing.
I have made it very clear that I oppose Israeli genocide. You just keep lying that I do. Stop lying and we can continue this conversation.
(I'm starting to wonder if this has something to do with one of the communities I moderate. And not a news one.)
Oh but you haven't, because you defend Democrats and their support of genocide at every turn. You make claims and overtures that you oppose the genocide, but whenever it would actually count, for example, by withholding your support for them, its a bridge to far. Hence my claim that its for performance only. Not only that, you troll and brigade the comments where criticism of Democrats is occurring (eg, this thread).
So you can't do both and still claim you oppose the genocide. Its clear that you think you are on one side of this issue, but your actions show that you are not.
Anything but admit you lied. How childish.
I have spent a large amount of time doing work for Jewish Voices for Peace to try to end this genocide. I'm sure you'll call them Israel supporters too. Anything but acknowledge that you lied.
Wow, this time you're lying about me supporting Israeli genocide in a thread where I literally never did anything of the sort. People can literally just scroll up.
But feel free to quote me saying I support Israeli genocide. You can't, because you're lying. In the stupidest way possible.
Its at the top of the thread buddy.
Lets take this statement apart again. Its a defense of Democrats. It makes the claim that Republicans will deport millions, they'll force your child into therapy, and that Republicans will "be worse", and that the genocide of Gazans isn't important because its tiring and there are other genocides.
Israel doesn't need Republicans to "be worse". Democrats are bad enough that Israel has had carte blanc to ethnically cleanse the northern half of the Gaza strip. Israel has everything they need: they don't need Republcians to "be worse". Israel has gotten every single thing that it has needed to conduct this genocide, and it has come entirely from the US Administrations defense of their genocidal policies. And by making this effort that you are making, to shield Democrats from criticism, you are giving them all the cover they need to continue supporting this genocide.
The other part of your claim which is relevant is
That is such an interesting way of trivializing the extermination of a people. I don't even know that I have commentary for that statement, because its so disgusting and abhorent at face value. Like, you are mad that people aren't just calmly going along with your para-social cheer-leading of an objectively pro-genocide candidate (instead of being crticial of her to try to get her to change). And you are just "annoyed" that you have to keep hearing about the ethnic cleansing of a people. Like its so annoying these people are getting murdered and you are just mad because its making your candidate look bad.
So yeah. These are the statements I take issue with. They are deeply problematic.
Cool, so I never said that I supported Israel's genocide, and, in fact, suggested that not only was that genocide terrible, so are the other two.
And at this point, you've convinced me that this is just some bigoted nonsense about my ethnicity.
I mean you said what you said dude. I'm just quoting you.
Yes, you quoted me saying three genocides were even worse than one genocide, which is already terrible.
Which is the opposite of supporting a genocide.
You lied, and now it's clear to me that you've been lying because you think a Jew automatically supports Israel.
I'm guessing this is also queerphobic.
I get it. You think all Jews support Israel.
And you hate queer people. You hate Jews and queer people. You've said so repeatedly.
Never said anything of the sort. In-fact, I'm pretty sure this is harassment.
You made it very clear that you don't care about the genocide if queer people and you refused to answer multiple times when I suggested you think Jews all support Israel.
Therefore you hate Jews and queer people.
I'm using your logic.
Of course, I'll be happy to say you don't hate Jews and queer people if you admit I don't support Israeli genocide.
And you've literally been harassing me this entire time by repeatedly lying that I support Israel.
How about you stop harassing me?
You said:
You told me "feel free to quote me", and so I have.
For you, this genocide doesn't matter and is "getting old". Your words. Not mine, not anyone else's. You are responsible for them, and try as you might, you wont be able to make this conversation about something it isn't.
I do not support Israel. I proved it in multiple ways. Stop harassing me and insisting I do.
Stop harassing me.
This seems pretty dismissive of the genocide of an entire people.
I do not support Israel. I proved it in multiple ways. Stop harassing me and insisting I do.
Stop harassing me.
I just want to know what you meant when you said this:
When you say "shit is getting old", it seems like you don't care about the genocide of the Gazan people. Like you are tired of hearing about it.
What did you mean when you said that?
I do not support Israel. I proved it in multiple ways. Stop harassing me and insisting I do.
Stop harassing me.
You can just uhh.. not respond? And if you did respond, you might consider offering a explanation for why you think addressing the issue of the genocide of the Gazan people is just "shit is getting old."
Because otherwise this:
Sure does look like a statement dismissing of the genocide of a people.
I do not support Israel. I proved it in multiple ways. Stop harassing me and insisting I do.
Stop harassing me.
I do not support Israel. I proved it in multiple ways. Stop harassing me and insisting I do.
Stop harassing me.
I do not support Israel. I proved it in multiple ways. Stop harassing me and insisting I do.
Stop harassing me.
I’m pretty sure blatant false accusations along with harassment violates several rules- not just in this community, but on lemmy in general.
Soooo…. What has emboldened you to think this is okay to do?
Is it the desperation of an upcoming election that’s got you upset? Is it not going your way? Are the gloves off now as we draw closer to November?
Squid has time-and-again proven they do not support the actions of Israel, yet you aggressively accuse them of it anyway?
I gotta ask…
Why?
Show me. Show me the accusation. I'm asking them to address something they said, not engage in some performative purity test.
What they said:
And this “there’s only one genocide that matters” shit is getting old.
Sure sounds like engaging in apologetic around the issue of the genocide of the Gazan people to me.
Show me that accusation. Because it doesn't exist and its not something I said. Its something they said I said. But my profile is right there. Dig around. I never said that. I did say they were white-knighting on behalf of Democrats (because they were, and they do that).
So if you are going to make some claim, its super easy to just back it up. No ones comments or histories are hidden. Its all right out in the open.
A person of average intelligence would think to look through their comment history and see that they do not defend Israel’s actions toward Palestine. A smart person would know they’re a moderator in a large community here on lemmy, and check the mod logs and know that they can see that they clearly do not show bias towards Israel.
But the smartest person wouldn’t get so bent out of shape to the point that they resort to petty anntagonism and edgelord memes after they been asked several times to be left alone.
This is harassment. Plain and simple.
And you have no place telling people any shit is getting old when all you do is chant “gEnOciDe sUpPorTeR” all day.
Walk it off.
That's a weird way of saying "I wasnt able to find any evidence of the claim".
What is is, is a rational way to tell you to do the work yourself..
Now, I’m pretty sure you’re not going to be around here much longer to waste the time in responding to you any further.
You’re as bad-faith as they get.
Yikes
Wow… banned from News during the election? That is going to sting a bit I would imagine.