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[-] missingno@fedia.io 19 points 4 days ago

what's on offer is simply the Dem agenda with a younger change of guard

See, that's what I'm not thrilled about.

You want a party that works for the rich and corporations, blows up the budgets recklessly, and thinks the low and middle classes are a resource to be used and drained: Republicans.

While we are on this spicy topic today, someone please remind me, what did Jill Stein do?

You're only arguing the "I'd vote for a ham sandwich to keep the GOP from power" side. You don't need to argue that part, we all know this, and it isn't what the person you're replying to was asking.

No one even said anything about Jill Stein here, bringing her up now feels like a very bad faith argument.

[-] banner80@fedia.io 53 points 4 days ago

Amazing.

90% of my comment was to explicitly say what Democrats do. And you managed to single out the 10% that wasn't about Democrats.

Why stop there? Throw in some "both sides" stuff too.

[-] missingno@fedia.io 8 points 4 days ago

I didn't feel the need to go over the DNC point-by-point. I said the Dem agenda is what I'm not thrilled about.

Do I have to go point-by-point before I can ask why you felt the need to bring up the Republicans and even Jill Stein at all when it's clear that wasn't the question being asked? We all know they're bad, but the fact that it seems like the only way to talk about the DNC is to keep reminding us that they're not the other guys, you were explicitly asked to actually say what's good about Kamala without doing that.

[-] davidagain@lemmy.world 6 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

Asks for good points about Kamala Harris without mentioning any bad points about republicans. Gets lots of substantial points and a throwaway about Stein. Ignores all the points about democrats and greys very cross about mentioning Stein once at the end.

https://lemmy.world/comment/12851475

What conclusions am I to draw? You just hate it when other people don't follow the letter of your laws,even the ones you didn't say out loud? That you hate discussing bad points about Kamala's opponents? That people can tell you benefits of voting for Kamala as much as they like, you'll never hear any of it and you'll still assert that no one can come up with any?

[-] missingno@fedia.io 2 points 3 days ago

I didn't ignore what you said, I responded by saying I'm not thrilled about the DNC agenda. It's all too little too slowly, without addressing underlying structural issues with capitalism. Did you need me to quote each line individually in order to say that?

What I don't like is that even when the question is explicitly "Regardless of how bad the other side is, what's actually good about the DNC?" you are incapable of not pivoting that question back to talking about how bad the other guys are. We know, but that wasn't the question.

What I don't like is that I can't even say "I'm not thrilled about the DNC agenda" without having all kinds of accusations hurled in my face.

[-] davidagain@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago

Correction, you can't say "tell me good things" and ignore all the good things, then complain that there were no good things, without being called out on it.

this post was submitted on 12 Oct 2024
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