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[-] TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world 14 points 1 week ago

We need a landslide for Kamala

Agreed. Kamala had the start of that during/ before the campaign. Like actually great performance. Since/ during the campaign, she's shifted to the right, focusing mostly on how "good she is for business" and touting Republican endorsements. She refused to engage with the uncommitted movement. Before the convention, her trajectory had her heading into the 50-55% zone by election day. That stalled out with her rightwing shift. She's on track to lose this election.

[-] zigmus64@lemmy.world 19 points 1 week ago

How do you say she’s in track to lose. All the data I’ve seen makes me optimistic.

[-] TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world 15 points 1 week ago

Safety for Democrats is leading in national polling by +10. Kamala isn't +5. She needs +5 to be break even due to structural issues like the electoral college and voter suppression. Her trajectory prior to, and through the convention supported her getting into the safety range. I think that because of what we've seen from the supreme court, this needs to be a blow out. We know republicans will be doing everything they can to steal/ cause chaos and confusion around results/ fail to certify etc. If it isn't violently clear from a major victory, this thing goes to Trump.

Its delusional to think that Kamala is on track for that kind of major victory, but as with Biden's performance and likelyhood of winning, self-delusion around their favorite teams ability to actually win seems to be Lemmy's kink.

[-] futatorius@lemm.ee 1 points 1 week ago

Ah, goalpost-moving. I should have known.

[-] TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago

Show me how I changed the standard?

[-] tootoughtoremember@lemmy.world 11 points 1 week ago

You don't deserve these down votes.

  • Hillary lost despite winning the popular vote by a +2% spread
  • Biden won with a 4.5% spread in the popular vote
  • Obama won by 7% and reelected by ~4%

It's not just that Democrats need to win big to shut the other side up, they need to win big just to overcome their inherent disadvantage in the electoral college.

With Kamala sitting around 2.2% nationally on average, being within the margin of error of the states she needs to win, and her momentum seemingly stalled for the reasons you listed, Democrats should be worried.

As someone who would vote for her, or just about anyone who is not Donald Trump, I hate this.

[-] TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world 7 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Lemmy reacted the same with regards to addressing the reality around Biden's chances of winning and his obvious failings at being able to turn things around. Moderation have cultivated a toxic culture of radical rejection of any kind of criticism of Democrats. There were bans about it.

However, this condition is not unique to Lemmy. Its symptomatic across corporate/ cable news as well. The inability to accurately and faithfully address your own teams performance is absolutely hampering the left/ Democrats ability to be successful in this election. We need to be more critical of the people supposed to represent us because we need them to be actually capable of winning the election. The stakes are too high to leave entire sections of the actually registered Democratic electorate for Harris to be chasing Republicans (when that strategy has been demonstrated to fail for almost 30 years.

We need Harris to do better, not just because its the moral and right thing to do, but because we abso-fucking-lutely can not afford to lose this election. Don't hide a candidates weaknesses, bring them up and force them to address them. Force them to become a stronger, more electable candidate. I mean jesus fucking christ, your opponent is a felon and rapist. Harris can't do better than a 2% spread on DJT? Do fucking better Harris. Stop chasing the fucking Cheney war criminal families endorsement and go apologize to the uncommitted crowd.

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