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[-] KoofNoof@lemmy.world 23 points 1 year ago

It’s democrats ranking states based off their policies, so of course the Republican states will all be at the bottom lol.

Headline should be: “Democrats say Republican states are worst states to live in”.

We should be posting political articles that aren’t clickbait echo chamber propaganda. Don’t let this become Reddits /r/politics, which was REALLY /r/democrats

[-] Ryumast3r@lemmy.world 63 points 1 year ago

You didn't even read their metrics did you? It's based on crime rates, healthcare, quality of health, etc. Those are pretty objective measures, and ones that republican-controlled states often fight against (see: reluctance to expand medicaid).

[-] MaxVerstappen@lemmy.world 17 points 1 year ago

Here's a completely unbiased excerpt about the "worst" state of Texas:

The Lone Star State keeps hacking away at inclusiveness, with laws targeting the LGBTQ+ population, voting rights, and the nation’s strictest abortion ban. Yes, there are enormous economic opportunities in Texas, and it is attracting people from far and wide. But this state also has some Texas-sized issues when it comes to life, health and inclusion. And it is one of the reasons that the state fell out of the overall top five for the first time in the 16-year history of CNBC’s rankings.

[-] rockSlayer@lemmy.world 34 points 1 year ago

Are you trying to say that laws that impact people's control over their identity are ok?

[-] MaxVerstappen@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Just that the article happens to align "good" with the Democratic party's top social stances. I find it extremely hard to believe that the state that left-leaning people are flocking to is the worst in the nation.

Look, I'm all for equal rights for everyone and the government staying out of people's personal lives. I just don't want the constant propaganda.

[-] Zorque@kbin.social 22 points 1 year ago

The propaganda... of judging based on those metrics you supposedly support?

[-] MaxVerstappen@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago

It's propaganda because it's dismissing the idea that it's generally a good state to move to economically. Lots of new high value companies setting up shop provide employment opportunities in a state where there is still land to develop.

I mean, Texas would be too hot for me but it seems a little suspicious that there is not a worse state in the union than Texas according to this.

By all means, if you can objectively come to the same conclusion as the article, great! I just don't trust the validity of their findings and therefore categorize it as propaganda.

[-] BigNote@lemm.ee 17 points 1 year ago

You can call it whatever you want, just know that you are badly misusing the word. Propaganda does not mean "anything I disagree with." Never has.

[-] Zorque@kbin.social 12 points 1 year ago

Just because there are opportunities doesn't mean they are good opportunities. And even if there are good opportunities, they don't necessarily comprise all of them. Just enough to draw in some skilled workers (who are still exploited, just better compensated).

But that's beside the point. The implication of your comment is that the social issues are the ones that comprise the propaganda, not the economic ones. Just because you pivot to something else doesn't suddenly mean you didn't make that argument.

[-] RocksForBrains@lemm.ee 16 points 1 year ago

Says the guy bleating conservative propaganda.

Respect for all is not a liberal propaganda conspiracy.

[-] AquaTofana@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago

Um. Yes. It fucking SUCKS to be a woman, LGBTQ+ + community member, or a minority here in Texas. Good luck if you're all 3.

This state is a steaming pile of shit and a blight on America. I wish it would secede, but only after the government offers refugee status to those of us who are sane and want to leave.

Then Texas can take its misogynistic, racist, bigoted, xenophobic self and go create its own country. And it can take Florida with it!

[-] Aurenkin@sh.itjust.works 22 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I suppose that's the only reasonable explanation that doesn't involve rethinking anything.

[-] monz@pawb.social 20 points 1 year ago

“Something bad said against Republicans is propaganda” doesn’t sound fascist at all, huh?

[-] MomoTimeToDie@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 year ago

Criticizing blatant propaganda isn't fascism.

[-] SamsonSeinfelder@feddit.de 10 points 1 year ago

Can you provide a ranking where you would say these states would come out top? What kind of metric would you like to see being used?

[-] TGTX@lemmy.world 21 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Ok, let’s be objective and use the “Republican-biased” business website state rankings that took its rankings from WalletHub and focuses on the BEST states for “affordability, economy, education/health, quality of life and safety”.

Holy shit, liberal darling, land of Romneycare, Massachusetts is #1. Followed by…New Jersey…and…New York.

https://www.foxbusiness.com/lifestyle/best-states-america-live-this-year-report

Maybe Fox Business isn’t conservative enough anymore? I guess I need to start looking on the Q-Anon forums for a state ranking.

[-] geoken@lemmy.world 13 points 1 year ago

Per capita membership to neo nazi groups?

[-] MomoTimeToDie@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 year ago

I don't feel like doing enough data analysis to get a perfect flip of these 10 being on top, but you could use criteria like low tax rates, abortion restrictions, and loose gun laws, and get a pretty solid inverse list.

The better question is what value do these lists have outside of getting a bunch of people who already agree with it circle jerking over how the incredibly biased list proves they're right?

[-] Ohthereyouare@lemm.ee 5 points 1 year ago

You had me in the first half.

It is skewed and should say that it's terrible for liberals, not MAGA folks

You lost me at /r/politics being a democratic e ho chamber. That's silly. Sounds like you might be happier in truth social.

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