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Pronouns bad! (lemmy.world)
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[-] Resol@lemmy.world 34 points 1 year ago

Pronouns are a basic part of language. Getting rid of them makes communication way harder. Unless you speak Spanish, I guess.

[-] Peruvian_Skies@sh.itjust.works 17 points 1 year ago

Do you think we don't use pronouns in Spanish? Because we absolutely do.

[-] Resol@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago

I know they exist, it's simply the fact that they're not usually required in daily speech, since verb conjugation gives the context of the pronoun anyway.

[-] lugal@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago

For subject pronouns, object pronouns are obligatory

[-] CoggyMcFee@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

Even subject pronouns are certainly used in everyday speech, even if less often compared to English.

[-] Peruvian_Skies@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 year ago

Yes, they are required and used. First, verb conjugation has nothing to do with object pronouns. You always need those. Second, subject pronouns may not always be required but are used much more often than they are omitted.

It's not good practice to comment with such confidence when you're so wrong.

[-] Resol@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

I guess I learned something.

[-] Unlocalhost@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago
[-] JoeBigelow@lemmy.ca 3 points 1 year ago

Don't loop me into this!

[-] toynbee@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

Spanish pronouns are used mainly in the plain.

(Side note: I thought the original quote was something like "the rain in Spain falls mostly on the Spaniards," but I can't find anything to support that. Only today did I even learn that it was from a song.)

[-] Resol@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago
[-] toynbee@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Apparently, "The Rain in Spain." (To be clear, I would not have known that before looking it up to verify the quote.)

The original lyric I was parodying was "the rain in Spain falls mainly on the plain." (Which, again, I would have gotten wrong if I hadn't researched it.)

edit: After a few minutes reviewing YouTube videos, apparently it was prose recited by the protagonist of "My Fair Lady," the movie from which that song came. Eventually she gained confidence via that song.

I don't know, I previously lacked context for the quote, but after watching a relevant video I realize I've seen a parody of it in Family Guy.

[-] jadedwench@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

And My Fair Lady is a remake based on the 1938 Pygmalion. I actually like the 1938 version better. All and all, Pygmalion is a play written by George Bernard Shaw back in 1912/1913.

[-] toynbee@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

And then, in 2000, the culmination of all that effort and culture: Pygmoelion.

[-] Resol@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago
[-] toynbee@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

I added more context to my original response. Hope you enjoy it!

[-] Resol@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago
this post was submitted on 30 Sep 2024
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