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[-] Xanthrax@lemmy.world 5 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

We could be nuked today

I agree, we should focus more on climate change, though.

[-] TheOubliette@lemmy.ml 24 points 10 months ago

Climate change cannot be sufficiently addressed without oveethrowing capitalism. China built more solar capacity last year than the entirety of American installations and both American candidates support fracking.

Join a local socialist org!

[-] SupraMario@lemmy.world 12 points 10 months ago

Lol they also built more coal plants than the rest of the world combined in 2023

https://www.npr.org/2023/03/02/1160441919/china-is-building-six-times-more-new-coal-plants-than-other-countries-report-fin

I swear you tankies are a hilariously ignorant bunch.

[-] TokenBoomer@lemmy.world 7 points 10 months ago

China did not start industrialization until 1949. Climate Change effects have been known since 1896 or 1824 depending on how you look at it. China literally did not start the fire 🔥

[-] SupraMario@lemmy.world 3 points 10 months ago

Lol China didn't start the fire, but they're literally pouring gas on it.... it's those damn western capitalist faults.

[-] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 6 points 10 months ago

Yes, they are rapidly developing and increasing percentages of their overall power comes from renewables, especially Solar, which they have invested tons of money into R&D to make scaling that economical.

[-] TheOubliette@lemmy.ml 5 points 10 months ago

You seem to have misunderstood what I wrote. I said they installed more solar power than the US's entire history, not a single year.

China is fulfilling its internationally-agreed climate commitments while the major imperialist countries do not.

You should find a more sustainable way to fulfill whatever drive makes you seek out this level of pointless smugness and guesswork gotchas.

[-] SupraMario@lemmy.world 3 points 10 months ago

https://www.reuters.com/sustainability/chinas-coal-country-full-steam-ahead-with-new-power-plants-despite-climate-2023-11-30/

The fuck are you talking about, they get 70% of their power from coal, they built 6 new plants in 2023. What the hell makes you think they're going to fullfil their agreements?

[-] TheOubliette@lemmy.ml 3 points 10 months ago

It sounds like you have made no attempt whatsoever to understand. I will wait for you to tell me that you have spent five minutes looking for the relevant information. If you can't, just tell me you couldn't fins it and I will gladly show you.

[-] SupraMario@lemmy.world 2 points 10 months ago

What type of response is that...if you have proof from a factual source, then post it. Stop talking like you're some wise tankie jedi.

[-] TheOubliette@lemmy.ml 2 points 10 months ago

Actually this is a very low bar but you managed to not clear it. This has confirmed a simple fact: you are here to fight and have no interest in the truth or learning. Obviously this was implied from the prior bad faith responses, but now we have cut to the chase.

Why should I waste my time?

[-] SupraMario@lemmy.world 1 points 10 months ago

Lol ok tankie, I provide links and sources and you provided tankie shit talking points.

[-] TheOubliette@lemmy.ml 2 points 10 months ago

Do you see how you must dodge and weave to avoid addressing what I say? And now namecalling. Just accidentally reconfirming everything I said.

[-] SupraMario@lemmy.world 1 points 10 months ago

Sure thing kid.

[-] CazzoneArrapante@lemm.ee 4 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)
[-] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 5 points 10 months ago

Yes, they have a Dictatorship of the Proletariat that carefully manages and plans a market economy in a transitional socialist state.

[-] khaleer@sopuli.xyz 4 points 10 months ago

I love well managed ghost cities woah!

[-] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 4 points 10 months ago

Developing for the future, what a wild concept!

[-] TheOubliette@lemmy.ml 4 points 10 months ago

Do you think that is a real thing?

[-] MutilationWave@lemmy.world 2 points 10 months ago

Yeah the proletariat are making the decisions in China. They're a dictatorship of Xi.

[-] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 2 points 10 months ago
[-] TheOubliette@lemmy.ml 3 points 10 months ago

Do you think you have fairly characterized my comment?

[-] Xanthrax@lemmy.world 2 points 10 months ago

I didn't say that. Wrong comment chain.

[-] Xanthrax@lemmy.world 2 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

I'm a communist. You guys came to debate yourselves.

[-] Xtallll 10 points 10 months ago
[-] sturlabragason@lemmy.world 8 points 10 months ago

https://www.dancarlin.com/product/hardcore-history-59-the-destroyer-of-worlds/

I don’t remember the quote directly but it’s somewhere in the area of that;

We have gotten so used to living in the shadow of annihilation that we’ve forgotten to fear the constant threat of global destruction that nuclear war is.

This podcast really gave me some perspective on that.

[-] CazzoneArrapante@lemm.ee 2 points 10 months ago

Nuclear war didn't happen and climate change is.

[-] sturlabragason@lemmy.world 1 points 10 months ago

I see no reason why we can’t have both.

[-] CazzoneArrapante@lemm.ee 1 points 10 months ago

I don't want any, that's the point.

[-] sturlabragason@lemmy.world 1 points 10 months ago

C’mon where is your sense of adventure.

[-] CazzoneArrapante@lemm.ee 1 points 10 months ago

I. don't. want. bad. things. I. Want. A. Good. Life.

[-] sturlabragason@lemmy.world 1 points 10 months ago

Fair enough. I hope you get it.

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