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[-] philo@lemmy.ca 8 points 3 weeks ago

Missouri speaks for the entire US now?

[-] queermunist@lemmy.ml 19 points 3 weeks ago

The US can be judged by the actions of any single state. It's all the same country 🙄

[-] philo@lemmy.ca 1 points 3 weeks ago

Like a book can be judged by its cover cause its all the same book?

[-] jonwyattphillips@lemmy.ml 18 points 3 weeks ago

Like a book can be judged by one of it's 50 chapters.

[-] AntiOutsideAktion@lemmy.ml 14 points 3 weeks ago

Do you need someone to explain how stupid this is, or have you calmed down since you reacted?

[-] TheTechnician27@lemmy.world 8 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

The fact that the US federal government has the power to outlaw this but doesn't, that this specific execution was brought before the Supreme Court and they voted against blocking it 6–3, and the fact that the majority of US states (27) and the federal government have this on the books speak for the US now, yes.

Taken to an absurd extreme, let's imagine that the US federal government and 27 of its states explicitly had statutes on the books stating "you can legally rape puppies", and you stepping in and saying "Well that doesn't speak for the entire US! Stop trying to make it sound like everyone condones puppy rape just because Missouri allows it!" Would you say that then? Because I feel like any rational person would be asking "Why does the US allow this to happen?" If not, why would you say it here? The US is simply backwards in this regard.

[-] philo@lemmy.ca 2 points 3 weeks ago

Puppy rape? Is that supposed to be an argument?

[-] TheTechnician27@lemmy.world 6 points 3 weeks ago

Would you come to the US' defense in the same way that you are right now over state-sanctioned murder in the situation I outlined? It's a very simple yes/no question that you're tiptoeing around for seemingly no reason.

[-] philo@lemmy.ca 2 points 3 weeks ago

In saying that one state doesn't speak for the entire country, YES. That was said in my first comment, maybe you should reread it.

[-] TheTechnician27@lemmy.world 4 points 3 weeks ago

Damn, last I checked, 27 plus the federal government was more than 1. Maybe the federal government expressed as an integer actually comes out to negative 26 and makes your ridiculous defense make any sense.

[-] philo@lemmy.ca 2 points 3 weeks ago

I didn't mention numbers but you mentioned puppy rape. Stop drinking so early, it'll rot your liver.

[-] TheTechnician27@lemmy.world 7 points 3 weeks ago

I didn't mention numbers

One state

I think you got lost on the way to /c/preschool where they teach you what numbers are.

[-] philo@lemmy.ca 1 points 3 weeks ago

My first comment said "Missouri speaks for the entire US now?" where exactly did I say one state? What hallucinogenic are you on right now?

[-] TheTechnician27@lemmy.world 4 points 3 weeks ago
[-] philo@lemmy.ca 1 points 3 weeks ago

Why do I bother, you're too dumb to know what my first comment was.

Missouri is one state. Even if you listed multiple states your point is still shit.

[-] philo@lemmy.ca 1 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

Yes, it is, however, even a three-year-old who can read would see that I wrote Missouri not one state.

BTW Mr Anus, I neither care what you think of my point nor where you stick it.

A three year old couldn't read what you wrote but they could probably understand that there are 50 states and Missouri is ONE of them. You're arguing semantics because you got blasted for your stupid comments. Have a cookie.

[-] philo@lemmy.ca 1 points 2 weeks ago

They couldn't? Some of the kids that were in pre-school when I was could but I'm a stupid boomer so what do I know....

No, they might know simple words like "in" but they're not reading sentences.

Either way, people do judge the actions of countries based on single states, districts, whatever. If I was a black person looking to travel to America I may reconsider after reading about Marcellus. I definitely wouldn't go to missurah. Just like we all judge other countries based on the actions of their governments. The point is, another potentially innocent black person was murdered by the government. If the death penalty is for resolution for the victims and they're completely against it, and the evidence used to convict is flawed, why the fuck would you kill someone? Do you think this would have happened if Marcellus was white? They're telling us they're in charge and our lives do not matter and they'll kill us to prove that point. But I'm just an angry black dude I guess.

Sure, we'll pretend that this hasn't been happening here for hundreds of years across all 50 states.

[-] PanArab@lemmy.ml 4 points 3 weeks ago
[-] philo@lemmy.ca 2 points 3 weeks ago

Actually SCOTUS speaks for Trump since he was the POS that installed them.

[-] PanArab@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 weeks ago

The people are responsible for who they elect and the actions they take. So millions of people in the US are to blame for this even if they aren't a majority thanks to how elections work in the US since Clinton won the popular vote.

[-] philo@lemmy.ca 1 points 2 weeks ago

Clinton was well over 30 years ago. Please join us in the present.

[-] PanArab@lemmy.ml 4 points 2 weeks ago
[-] philo@lemmy.ca 1 points 2 weeks ago
[-] PanArab@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

SCOTUS appointments are for life. The 70 million or so who voted for him will be responsible even after their death of many of them.

[-] Cube6392@beehaw.org 3 points 2 weeks ago

you're getting gish galloped i think. this other person is just gonna keep pulling you further and further from the actual problem, which is that this problem is not unique to just one state and requires systemic change throughout the nation to fix

[-] philo@lemmy.ca 1 points 2 weeks ago

How does 70 million translate into one state speaking for the entire country of 330 million?

[-] PanArab@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 weeks ago

Maybe you aren’t meant to understand it

[-] Cube6392@beehaw.org 3 points 3 weeks ago

Missouri isn't so different from everywhere else

[-] philo@lemmy.ca 2 points 3 weeks ago
[-] Cube6392@beehaw.org 5 points 3 weeks ago

I've spent a lifetime traveling the united states. i originate from Appalachia. bad and racist judgements come all across the country. any state with the death penalty on the books will eventually do this, and any state that doesn't have the death penalty on the books has around 30% of people minimum who think it should be. you're deluding yourself if you don't think everywhere is like everywhere else just with different ratios of who is around

[-] philo@lemmy.ca 2 points 3 weeks ago

This would also mean California is like Alabama which is like New York which going even farther because borders are man-made, exactly like London which is exactly like Israel, Gaza, Yemen.....see how your argument is stupid or do I need to go on?

[-] Cube6392@beehaw.org 1 points 3 weeks ago

no actually. i don't see how my view that people are all people and the things we do is all in response to the context we grow up in is stupid. so please keep listing places that we have both the potential to improve or to degrade into depending on what actions we take and if we can learn to empathize

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