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[-] Illecors@lemmy.cafe 3 points 1 year ago

It's easy to shit on everything, so I'll try to avoid doing that.

I do genuinely not understand the blind "minimum wage should be this" angle. All raising the minimum wage does is raise expenses for everything. It's pretty much like fuel costs: price of fuel goes up - your bakery, pharmacy, grocer, etc all raise prices and in the end it is those on the lowest income that get impacted the most.

A bit of a mind dump:

  • Most of us live in a capitalist system. You can dislike it all you want, but as someone who's seen what happens when ownership is shared, everyone is equal, a cook should be able to run a country - fuck that. I'll take bad capitalism over that nonsense any day.
  • Everyone should strive to improve themselves. Every day. Doesn't have to be monetarily driven improvement - it's the mindset of constant improvement that I want. And when that happens - aiming for minimum wage becomes a thing of the past.
  • Everyone is not equal. Everyone must be given equal opportunity. We're good at different things, we absolutely suck at different things. Doesn't mean we're bad/wrong/mistreated if we try those things. What is wrong, however, is someone claiming they deserve something (great salary) when they suck at doing whatever they're doing. Just go do something else; preferably something you're good at.
  • Deep inside - we're apes. We need to keep ourselves busy as otherwise brain starts overcompensating for lack of activity and we end up being idiots on the internet. Given enough time that leads to us being idiots outside the internet as well.
  • Mental health issues are real. They're abused waaaay too much as an excuse to rot in the basement. Been there, done that. Start small, increment daily. Small, iterative steps. Everything takes time. Your choice on what gets your spend.
[-] farngis_mcgiles@sh.itjust.works 24 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

All raising the minimum wage does is raise expenses for everything.

Demonstrably false. Prices will always go up regardless. Nobody should have to work for less than a liveable wage. If you disagree with me you are a piece of shit.

[-] Illecors@lemmy.cafe 1 points 1 year ago

Of all the things you could've said you chose one of the dumbest.

[-] Don_alForno@feddit.org 20 points 1 year ago

If you work 40 hours a week you need to earn enough to live in the city where you do said work. Period.

Also, wages are only a small part of costs for pretty much everything. +10% wages does NOT mean +10% total costs for whatever that worker provides, and so does NOT mean +10% price, if the company is honest.

[-] AA5B@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

Now that my teens are working, I’m a bit uncomfortable with this. Does my teenager, whose living expenses are still fully paid by me, really need a living wage? We’re a $15 minimum wage so He’s excited about the money he’s making, but part of me feels like he’s taking some of that from someone who needs it

I guess it comes down to that it’s a job, that anyone can fill. Also that some teenagers may need a living wage

[-] Don_alForno@feddit.org 18 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Does my teenager, whose living expenses are still fully paid by me, really need a living wage?

Thank god it's none of my employer's business what my living conditions are. If I can make do with a lot less because of personal circumstances then that's good for me, but that can't be the metric to measure other people against.

part of me feels like he’s taking some of that from someone who needs it

He's taking it from his employer who certainly doesn't "need it more", otherwise they wouldn't employ your son.

[-] Stalinwolf@lemmy.ca 9 points 1 year ago

It's certainly not my intent to judge you or make assumptions, but that seems like kind of a weird perspective, to believe your kid should make less than their peers for providing the same labor. There are plenty of households who humbly ask their working teens to contribute a portion to bills.

[-] prole 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

but as someone who’s seen what happens when ownership is shared, everyone is equal, a cook should be able to run a country - fuck that. I’ll take bad capitalism over that nonsense any day.

Nice strawman... You sure showed that completely made up political/economic philosophy who's boss!

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