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[-] art@lemmy.world 84 points 2 months ago

Eventually, Sony will stop supporting the PS5 and it'll be a brick. If Valve ever stops supporting the Steamdeck, it'll keep running.

[-] someguy3@lemmy.world 25 points 2 months ago

All (most?) of your games will run on your future computers.

[-] TachyonTele@lemm.ee 14 points 2 months ago

You can play DOS games just fine right now, so yes it's a good bet. And a far better bet than the PS6 being backwards compatible.

[-] atrielienz@lemmy.world 6 points 2 months ago

The crazy thing for me is that I have a little handheld specific for dos games. The problem I run into every time is having to setup computer keyboard bindings for each game to play them using the built-in controller. I really want retroarch or another dos emulator to do profiles for different games and I haven't seen that yet.

[-] Blackmist@feddit.uk 8 points 2 months ago

Unless they change CPU architectures.

And even then it's no guarantee. Plenty of games needed support from the likes of GoG to run. Hell, I couldn't even play Ex Machina because I had a HDR monitor and the game detected that and completely broke. Disabling HDR in Windows did nothing.

[-] TheYang@lemmy.world 5 points 2 months ago

Unless they change CPU architectures.

well. there's already winlator (basically box86 / wine-wrapper for android).
Not as polished and far as Proton is, but the bones are there.

A CPU architecture change wouldn't be a deathblow.

[-] TachyonTele@lemm.ee 2 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Ex Machina the movie or the 1984 "game"? That's before Mario was even a thing.

[-] Blackmist@feddit.uk 1 points 2 months ago

Fucking auto correct...

It was Nex Machina.

[-] TachyonTele@lemm.ee 1 points 2 months ago
[-] Blackmist@feddit.uk 1 points 2 months ago

Yes, I know. And I already can't play it due to changes in hardware.

[-] TachyonTele@lemm.ee 1 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

That doesn't make any sense. I can play multiple games from 2017 with no problem at all. I play games from 2012 and up just fine too. That's something the devs messed up for that specific game, or it's a problem with your PC.

[-] JackbyDev@programming.dev 1 points 2 months ago

I have a hard time believing HDR wasn't around in 2017 in some capacity. This sounds like a big that existed on launch, yeah?

[-] TachyonTele@lemm.ee 1 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

I don't know about HDR, but there was a ton of great games released in 2017.

Maybe don't try to use HDR if your PC/monitor/TV can't do it?

[-] Blackmist@feddit.uk 1 points 2 months ago

My TV from 2017 was HDR, so it was. But HDR monitors would have been pretty rare, so the bug probably wouldn't have shown up in any great numbers.

I don't even run Windows in HDR mode (because it looks awful), but it picks it up anyway and completely fucks the graphics up.

[-] XTL@sopuli.xyz 8 points 2 months ago

Device, maybe. What happens to the games bought from a DRM monopoly?

[-] VeganCheesecake 21 points 2 months ago

While valve has a lot of deserved goodwill, that's always the problem - they're well-behaved, but set up in a way in which the customer has no leverage if they where to change their approach tommorow.

Good thing drm-free games run just as well on the steam deck.

[-] Aceticon@lemmy.world 4 points 2 months ago

After over 3 decades as a gamer and tech user this is maybe the single most consistent important benefit for any open platform were you can just install Linux.

The rest is nice but this one means that 10 or 20 years from now your hardware might have been repurposed for something else and still be useful and in use whilst a closed platform will just be more junk in a junkyard or sitting in a box of those things you've kept just because you don't like to throw expensive stuff away but will in practice never use again.

[-] ano_ba_to@sopuli.xyz 4 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

These devices have different use cases. Steam Deck also is digital only. If a publisher decides to kill a game, they can control whether you can or can't play the game. PS5 Pro is expensive, but so are video cards nowadays. PS5 Pro is just following a trend set years before, including the shift from physical games and cost. The only way to stop anti-consumer trends is to stop buying expensive hardware (PS5 Pro included). Also, give some love to physical copies of games.

[-] techwithjake@lemm.ee 12 points 2 months ago

Saying the Steam Deck is digital only is like saying a tower computer is digital only. That's purely false. If you can put it on a tower computer, you can put it on the Steam Deck.

All the Steam Deck, like many modern tower computers, needs for physical copies is a USB media reader.

[-] ano_ba_to@sopuli.xyz 1 points 2 months ago

If we can argue that Sony will stop supporting the PS5 in the future, who's to say in the future, (without the good leadership), Steam won't restrict what can be put on the Steam Deck? We have a lot of arguments for wanting a Steam Deck and an alternative OS to boot for gaming, but saying PS5 will be bricked in the future is not a strong one.

[-] techwithjake@lemm.ee 15 points 2 months ago

Because the Steam Deck is just computer hardware. I can already install whatever OS I want to and Steam won't know that it's a Steam Deck anymore.

[-] xavier666@lemm.ee 8 points 2 months ago
  • Take Steam Deck
  • Wipe OS and install Bazzite/Nobara
  • Install Heroic Launcher / Non Steam Launcher
  • Install games from them

Nuclear apocalypse happens and internet is down

  • Get ISOs of games in a USB drive
  • Plug it into the deck and install
[-] art@lemmy.world 6 points 2 months ago

Beacause, Today, I can already load another OS on the Steamdeck. Not so much on the PS5.

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