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Oh hey, also the same thing with environmental issues

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[-] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 128 points 2 months ago

But to take it a bit further, high capacity public infrastructure can go a long way towards improving the lives of low income working people.

Trains, buses, and subways can eliminate the need to own and maintain a car. Public housing can get people off the street, where they won't be at risk of harm from interpersonal violence or exposure to severe weather. Public education and public health care have more benefits than I could list.

At an individual level, "Just give people money" is an immediate and useful generic panacea. But at a more macro level, geographic access to grocery stores and clinics and colleges and bus stops and permanent homes and factories matter just as much.

[-] otter@lemmy.dbzer0.com 40 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Clearly, the Venn of those who're empowered to make those changes and those who've played at least a couple hours of SimCity is two estranged circles.

[-] Maeve@kbin.earth 18 points 2 months ago

It needs to be quality of those things, as well. And they know this. It's designed to keep us too tired, broken physically and mentally to get off the wheel, and not just under it, either. There's enough for everyone, just some few want to hoard it like decades worth of paper, not because it may come in handy, just because bloodsport is still entertainment, no matter how well they dress it.

[-] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 17 points 2 months ago

It needs to be quality of those things, as well.

Oh absolutely. I have a bus stop on my corner, but it only picks up every 2 hours and then doesn't go to downtown.

There’s enough for everyone, just some few want to hoard it like decades worth of paper, not because it may come in handy, just because bloodsport is still entertainment, no matter how well they dress it.

Kropotkin was saying it over a century ago. Bread Book, baby.

People periodically ask how a country like Denmark or New Zealand or Japan can have such high standards of living relative to their individual incomes. Or why a country like the UK or Saudia Arabia can be so rich and yet appear so poor from a street level view.

So much boils down to who has access to quality infrastructure.

[-] Maeve@kbin.earth 6 points 2 months ago

True enough. With apologies to mlk2, I may not get there with you, but I've seen it in my dreams. I hope we get there, with or without me. If you do, guard it vigilantly.

[-] grue@lemmy.world 16 points 2 months ago

But to take it a bit further, high capacity public infrastructure can go a long way towards improving the lives of low income working people.

Trains, buses, and subways can eliminate the need to own and maintain a car.

The real problem is zoning. If the density is high enough (and mixed-use enough), people can just fucking walk places whether you've got public transit or not!

[-] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 13 points 2 months ago

Even in areas where we have zoned for dense real estate, we've built these four lane boulevards with barely a crosswalk between them.

At some level, we could use a little zoning. Pedestrianization isn't going to happen via the free market.

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