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Who are the six Israeli hostages whose bodies were found in Gaza?
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No, the hostages were murdered by Hamas. They were not killed by Israeli air strikes.
As stated by the government that has been caught lying more than telling the truth in this conflict that also runs rape and torture camps as reported by their own media.
It’s okay not to like Israeli government but it’s not cool to spread misinformation unless you have some data that we haven’t seen.
Hamas has claimed that they were killed during the air strike.
You are right. Perhaps it is wise to believe the words of the kidnappers and not the people trying to rescue them. Perhaps it is not.
I’m referring to the previous poster going on about unrelated accusations that have nothing to do with the story.
I wouldn't characterize either party as being particularly free from bias. It's a shame that ground-level reporters have such a frequent tendency to die.
They are both asshats and Netanyahu is a psychopath. No denying that.
If Hamas would release these fucking hostages Israel would lose the ability to continue their siege. But they won’t.
Israel constantly says they won't stop if hostages are released. They will only stop once they've killed all hamas, which by their definition of hamas is anyone in Gaza
Do you have a source to go with that or are you just shooting from the hip?
Oof you're a tool. Here's some.context: https://www.npr.org/2024/01/04/1222813493/what-will-it-take-for-israel-to-affirm-mission-accomplished-in-gaza-and-end-the-
That's 8 months old and everyone alreadt knew the hostages were just a political token benji was using to genocide the local ethnic minority.
Go ahead and your head out of your ass and play catch up with the rest of us. The powers that be dont give a shit about the hostages. Lol
https://www.timesofisrael.com/liveblog_entry/netanyahu-we-will-not-agree-to-hostage-deal-at-any-price-there-are-red-lines-we-wont-cross/
And yet you. take. the. word. of. a. country. systematically. raping. civilians.
Don't pretend you're interested in the truth. You're interested in seeing more dead, raped, and starving kids to fulfill you racial prejudices. Go fuck yourself.
Oh god people who write sentences. like. this. Need to be taken out behind the barn.
Very colorful language but nothing to back it up. Please don’t assume you know me or what I want. You’re only making yourself look like a whiny child.
You think you're coming off better?
Keep stroking your ego. There's a special place in hell for people who think I'd give a shit how uncivil I look when pointing out their genocidal rhetoric is psychopathic.
I'd rather be a whiny child with a conscience than a stuck up brat supporting blood for the sake of empire.
I find it amusing you think Israel's goal is to rescue the hostages. They really don't give a shit. It's an excuse to cleanse the land for future settlement. Simple as that.
Well if Hamas knows this they could, you know, release the hostages. Israel would lose Casus Belli and all international support.
You’re looking at this wrong.
Israel has kidnapped far more children if you consider the west bank children held without a judicial process, only a military tribunal without counsel where only the testimony of the military personal who kidnapped the children matters.
So, either way you have to believe kidnappers.
Or do Palestinian children not have the privilege to be 'kidnapped'?
Okay so you’ll believe Hamas that the hostages were killed in an Israeli air strike that somehow secretly managed to bomb an underground tunnel?
Amazing.
I'll believe the word of the released hostages that stated the thing that scared them most was Israeli bombing.
Rape and torture camp as reported by haaretz: sde teinman
I'm not spreading misinformation.
Edited to fix spelling of the name of the torture camp.
Feel free to share the link
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/israel-hamas-war-idf-palestinian-prisoner-alleged-rape-sde-teinman-abuse-protest/
https://theintercept.com/2024/08/09/israel-prison-sde-teiman-palestinian-abuse-torture/
https://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/2024-07-30/ty-article/.premium/doctor-who-saw-abused-gazan-detainee-i-couldnt-believe-an-israeli-jailer-could-do-this/00000191-0436-df85-a399-ed36f4800000
Feel free to do even the most basic level of research about the apartheid government you defend.
They have a fucking video of the gangrape.
EDIT: and before you accuse me of spreading misinformation by calling Israel an apartheid country:
https://www.hrw.org/news/2024/07/19/world-court-finds-israel-responsible-apartheid
But all these different organizations are Hamas, right?
You said there were multiple camps. There are not.
You are embellishing. The 9 Israelis responsible are being tried in court. This is not a systematic issue. It’s isolated.
Israeli hostages were also sexually abused.
So you do know of the rape camp and the systemic torture camps?
Why did you call it misinformation if you knew what I was talking about?
You said camps which would imply systemic problems and not an isolated incident.
Disingenuous on your part.
What multiple camps?
lol okay buddy. Whatever you say.
Hamas blames Israeli airstrikes for death of six hostages in Gaza
Are you really taking the word of Hamas, who kidnapped the people to begin with? The air raids killed the hostages in an underground tunnel? Yeah, okay.
If Hamas was concerned about the lives of the hostages they could have released them. Propaganda at best.
Are you really taking the word of a convicted apartheid state that runs a minimum of one torture camp that intentionally bombs civilians?
I’m having a difficult time believing that Israel jets killed hostages located in an underground tunnel.
Why?
You don't believe all the released hostages who said the thing that scared them most was the Israeli bombing?
Then you're as much an idiot as the rest of the morons who take Netanyahu's word. You can tell me what you think a 2000Lbs bomb would do to a hand-dug tunnel a few meters below the surface.
Especially one reliant on manual ventilation since there's little to no electrical power (hmm who did that I wonder?).
Even if Hamas killed them in cold blood, which is a stupid negotiating tactic by the way, they have infinitely more reasons for doing so considering the reality of most of the prison guards having their entire family lines wiped out by targeted attacks on civilians over 10 months.
Thank you for sharing all your hypothetical situations.
Omg you're doing it here too.
Propaganda is you believing that Israel wouldn't start an extermination campaign the very day after Hamas agreed to any internationally-agreed peace deal that didn't explicitly demand the IOF pulling out of Gaza.
Israel could've had these people back alive if they agreed to the July 2nd peace plan as the US and Hamas had supported, yet Netanyahu wants indefinite control of the Gaza strip and total extermination of the Palestinian people; The hostages are just a good excuse to keep useful idiots like you in line.
lol are you just going through my post history and commenting on everything?
I’m not disagreeing that Netanyahu has ulterior motives. He’s going to do what he wants since there are still hostages.
Hamas is giving him every excuse to do so.
Turns out if you make multiple replies to a post replying to someone about why genocide is the fault of the victims and not the internationally-back apartheid state targeting civilians, you're gonna have someone like me calling out your bullshit on multiple posts. who knew?
You’re putting words in my mouth. I’m sorry that you are not able to understand the conversation.
Yes, when tons of explosives are dropped on Gaza, I take the word of Hamas that explosives killed hostages. Especially when other hostages were returned. Hamas gains nothing from their deaths.
You are suggesting that Hamas hasn’t murdered any of the hostages. Are you being serious?
I am suggesting that they didn't murder these ones.
Why? They have murdered hostages before, so there goes the personal gain theory.
You're clearly an antagonizer. Some mute people they don't like. I don't because I want to know how much shit you spread. I'll no longer engage.