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Senator Lindsey Graham (R-SC) said he isn’t buying all that Democratic “joy” on display at this past week’s Democratic National Convention in Chicago during a Sunday appearance with Jake Tapper on CNN’s State of the Union.

During their conversation, Tapper brought up the “disciplined” and “well-produced” DNC this week that, as the journalist put it, “conveyed patriotism and unity.” Graham didn’t see it that way.

“Well, I didn’t see what you saw,” Graham told Tapper with a laugh. “If you’re a Republican, you saw a hate fest. You saw a hate fest full of insults.”

“Americans are not joyful when they go to the gas station and fill up their car,” he continued. “They’re not joyful when they make their mortgage payment. They’re not joyful when they go to the grocery store. People are hurting, and this whole joy love fest doesn’t exist in the real world.”

To bolster his claim, Graham pointed to the gas prices, the state of the border, and inflation during Donald Trump’s presidency when “the world was not on fire.”

He's either lying or what he said gives us a look into his shitty perspective of the world. Either way such a miserable and pathetic existence.

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[-] Ekybio@lemmy.world 201 points 2 months ago

I think this is a great example of how a conservative mind views the world.

They are never happy or joyfull, its always a struggle and you fight for an idea despite you hating all of it. The idea that your life is not filled by misery is alien to them.

At this point being conservative is just akin to mental illness. Destructive, depressed, delusional to themselves and others. If ever there was a real social contaigion, it would be this state of being.

[-] benignintervention@lemmy.world 82 points 2 months ago

I grew up in a pretty conservative household and we were literally raised that life is work and work is hell. By way of the transitive property, life = hell. It's taken a long time through various degrees of depression and I'm still not fully grown out of it.

But yes, the entire culture and identity is about being miserable and persevering through it, even if that means making yourself and everyone around you more miserable to justify the perseverance.

Like the saying "nothing good comes free." You could say the sunrise is free, but they'll argue it's not because you have to wake up early and waking up early is by necessity miserable so that the sunrise can be good. They're brainwashed into thinking the only way a good thing happens is through suffering. Except the truly lost ones who only see life as suffering.

[-] TrickDacy@lemmy.world 33 points 2 months ago

Wow.. yeah I grew up this way too. But I'm not sure I ever really put it all together the way you did just now. I'm gonna have to think on this.

[-] postmateDumbass@lemmy.world 16 points 2 months ago

As an extension, if the conservative sees something free that people need, they will try to monopolize that free thing and then sell it. They call this innovation.

[-] benignintervention@lemmy.world 10 points 2 months ago

Everything in their world is transactional

[-] dethedrus@lemmy.dbzer0.com 10 points 2 months ago

So utterly grim that it perfectly explains the entire conservative movement.

"Life is bad. Anyone who isn't miserable and angry like me is cheating and must be destroyed."

[-] kfchan@fedia.io 60 points 2 months ago

Could also be that any time Lindsey Graham enters a room, all the people around him become miserable, so that's why he thinks joy doesn't exist

[-] Gradually_Adjusting@lemmy.world 23 points 2 months ago

It's hard to see any joy in the world when you're a closeted hate-mongerer who can't get laid for free.

[-] Xanthrax@lemmy.world 9 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

I feel the opposite as a Democrat. I support positivity, but I won't smile while Palestinians are being murdered. That seems pretty tone deff. I'm happy Donald Trump is going down regardless. I'm voting Kamala. Please don't forget to protest after we win.

I'm also worried about Armenia, Hong Kong, Myanmar, Syria, Iran, Taiwan, Tibet, Uyghurs, immegrants entering the US, UKRAINE. I am NOT smiling while people are dying and our nation is complacent.

[-] Rentlar@lemmy.ca 50 points 2 months ago

I will tell you in advance: with that mindset, even if every issue you stated in the last paragraph is solved, you will still not be able to smile. People will still keep dying and suffering from injustice, just elsewhere or in different ways.

Try to celebrate every incremental step towards justice and use that energy towards the next step and so on.

[-] Xanthrax@lemmy.world 5 points 2 months ago

Then I'll continue to not smile. I refuse to pretend to be happy while people suffer. It's natural to feel empathy. You guys can ignore it if you need to for your mental health, but as an American with the power to change things, I will continue to protest.

[-] adespoton@lemmy.ca 13 points 2 months ago

Ever heard of “joy in suffering?”

Generally, the more you have, the more miserable you can be. It’s important to take time to appreciate the positive things in life even while grieving for those who don’t currently get to experience them. Joy and grief aren’t mutually exclusive feelings, and you don’t need to ignore/suppress the grief to experience the joy.

[-] Xanthrax@lemmy.world 1 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

I'm happy in my free time. I'm talking about politics and the way we show ourselves in public. I'm talking about the way we influence people.

Johnny Cash is a good example. Of course he smiled, but he dressed in black and he died in black. I'm fine doing the same.

[-] aniki@lemmings.world 10 points 2 months ago

You're terminally online and need to step away from the internet. Its not real.

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