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Effectiveness of hi-vis in car traffic (slrpnk.net)

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[-] calamitycastle@lemmy.world 8 points 8 months ago

Hey I think you missed this extremely important part of your quoted source:

Results: Passenger cars and light trucks (vans, pickups, and sport utility vehicles) accounted for 46.1% and 39.1%, respectively, of the 4875 deaths, with the remainder split among motorcycles, buses, and heavy trucks.

[-] The_v@lemmy.world 12 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

Hey I think you have never taken a statistics or logical reasoning course.

Yes in total number cars and light trucks kill the most pedestrians. That's not what is being discussed.

Per mile driven, motorcycles are more than 4x more likely to kill a pedestrian. If motorcycles were used the same amount as cars and light trucks, the total number of deaths per year from them would be almost 20,000 people

Motorcyclist are statistically more dangerous drivers to pedestrians.

[-] calamitycastle@lemmy.world 6 points 8 months ago

Sure!

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Straw_man

[-] The_v@lemmy.world 10 points 8 months ago

I am glad to see you made an attempt to identify your error, but that's the wrong logical fallacy.

What you did is:

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_herring

[-] potpotato@lemmy.world 1 points 8 months ago

“If motorcycles were used the same amount…”

They aren’t, so who cares?

[-] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 5 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

Hey. I think you don't understand average or what the phrase "per mile driven" means.

There's a shit ton more cars and trucks than motorcycles.

But per mile while you're operating a motor vehicle, motorcycles kill more pedestrians

Does that make sense?

If not, can you clarify what in this sentence is causing your confusion?

Did you know by mile driven, motorcycles kill more pedestrians than cars or trucks?

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