undefined> esda games are best left alone until the modders get a solid crack at it to shore up bugs and add features that probably should’ve been in the base game. Give that shit at least half a year imo

I definitely love the mods that the community makes for Bethesda games, but I have also enjoyed many of their games without them... I will often do a vanilla play through prior to doing any mods.

I played Oblivion and Skyrim right at release and had a good time with both (more with Oblivion though).

I played Gothic 1, 2 and 3 though, so I am used to games with really ugly bugs. The ones where your saved stage can get corrupted in a way that you have to load one from several hours back to correct a mistake to be able to proceed. So my threshold might be higher.

Same thing I do with Far Cry games

Wait until it's on a deep discount, then pick it up and hopefully enjoy it.

FC6, despite some of its flaws, was definitely worth the $10 I paid for it.