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"What is a woman?" (lemmy.world)
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[-] LustyArgonianMana@lemmy.world 3 points 2 months ago

presuppose useful information about a person

Yes, and in your opinion, what specifically is that information?

[-] Zozano@lemy.lol 1 points 2 months ago

Well if someone says to me "that woman is suspicious" and there are two people who present as men, and one who presents as a woman, then I'm going to keep my eye on the woman.

[-] LustyArgonianMana@lemmy.world 2 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

And how would you know which one was the woman?

[-] Zozano@lemy.lol 1 points 2 months ago

The one which presents as a woman. Because me, and virtually everyone else is using a definition which has utility (not yours).

[-] LustyArgonianMana@lemmy.world 2 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

And what specifically about her presents as a woman to you?

It's funny you're such a coward about actually saying this, since you're the one claiming this basis exists. If it's there and you can know it immediately on sight, then what about the woman you're imagining in this scenario makes her a woman to you?

"Vittually everyone else is using a definition," so what is it? You refuse to say directly. And how do you know everyone else uses that definition? Multiple people itt have defined it as I and Erin have- any woman who identifies as such.

[-] Zozano@lemy.lol 2 points 2 months ago

The problem is actually just that you're not listening to me.

Let me show you.

This is Two Guys and a Girl

One of these three people presents as a girl, right?

There is not one specific defining feature of her gender as she presents herself, it's the outcome of many variables.

[-] LustyArgonianMana@lemmy.world 2 points 2 months ago

No, it's that they fit the gender binary you've been trained to spot your whole life. However, we've found that the gender binary is inaccurate and wrong so it's stupid to force people to follow it arbitrarily.

I am reading what you're writing, I just disagree and you think I should agree. No thanks.

[-] Zozano@lemy.lol 1 points 2 months ago

Okay, so we disagree. You don't need to accuse me of being malicious or deceitful. I'm doing my best to convey what I believe, same as you.

I could just as easily accuse you of not sincerely stating what you believe.

[-] petrol_sniff_king 2 points 2 months ago

Ah, I see the definition. "A woman is someone who presents as a woman." You're right, that's much better and much less recursive.

[-] Zozano@lemy.lol 1 points 2 months ago

Actually, my full statement would be "a woman is someone who presents with the role of the previous definition of woman (biological female).

Which is my original definition.

[-] petrol_sniff_king 2 points 2 months ago

How does a "biological female" present?
Do they wear dresses?
Ah yes, biological dresses.

[-] Zozano@lemy.lol 1 points 2 months ago

Well, not a kilt at least lol.

[-] petrol_sniff_king 2 points 2 months ago
this post was submitted on 22 Aug 2024
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