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[-] wholookshere 26 points 1 year ago

If still expect a discount for worse parts.

[-] DebatableRaccoon@lemmy.ca 11 points 1 year ago

This is Nvidia we're talking about. Lowered prices isn't a tactic in those scumbags' wheelhouse

[-] SpaceNoodle@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago

It's not worse if it doesn't perform any differently. Besides, you don't actually know the BOM cost.

[-] RightHandOfIkaros@lemmy.world 14 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

If it was overspecced before, then that means it was using parts more expensive than it needed to. Nobody makes RAM that is slower and also more expensive for the same capacity. Logically, this should translate to lowered prices for the GPUs using the cheaper parts.

[-] SpaceNoodle@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago

For all we know, they used overspecced RAM because it was what was available in the quantities needed, or they got a good price from the supplier - which is something that has specifically happened with hardware I've worked on before. Again, we don't actually know the specific pricing details. Higher speed does not inherently mean higher cost.

[-] Someonelol@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 1 year ago

But think of Nvidia's shareholders! /s

[-] filister@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago

Honestly NVIDIA shareholders don't give a shit about the discrete GPU market as long as NVIDIA is able to overcharge the datacenters and reek of insane profits.

Unfortunately, the crypto boom normalised those prices and now there is no turning back.

[-] wholookshere 5 points 1 year ago

It’s objectively worse. “Real world performance” might be the same, but I’m paying for performance AND parts.

[-] SpaceNoodle@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

You're not paying for the discrete parts. You're not gonna desolder that RAM and use it for something else.

[-] wholookshere 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

No but I am paying for the accumulation of those parts no? Otherwise I’m not buying hardware.

And we know shoe on the other foot, if there was no performance increase, but a fancy marketing label, they’d be all over increasing the price for it.

[-] SpaceNoodle@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

You're paying for the overall performance of the product, not for specs of each discrete component by itself.

Yes, you also pay for whatever they decide is relevant to marketing.

[-] wholookshere 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

How is buying hardware based on specs not doing both?

To that end, that’s like saying apple doesn’t need to offer higher base specs on things like ssds and internal storage because the performance is the same.

[-] SpaceNoodle@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

Correct, there would be no reason for them to purposefully overspec their parts.

[-] wholookshere 1 points 1 year ago

So then why wouldn’t I expect a discount on this v2 card?

[-] SpaceNoodle@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

Because you're paying for the card as a whole, not discrete components.

[-] wholookshere 1 points 1 year ago
[-] SpaceNoodle@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

No, you're not purchasing discrete components for use as discrete components.

[-] wholookshere 1 points 1 year ago

If im not buying the cumulation of parts I don’t know what im buying.

[-] SpaceNoodle@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

You don't understand how the overall system as a whole differs from the discrete components in isolation?

[-] wholookshere 1 points 1 year ago

No…

You can’t buy a card without also buying all the individual composts though.

[-] wholookshere 1 points 1 year ago

Except I’m buying a card with objectively worse materials.

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