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Legislation that Gov. JB Pritzker signed into law this month bans physical punishment in private schools while reiterating a prohibition on the practice in public schools implemented 30 years ago.

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[-] Blackmist@feddit.uk 36 points 4 months ago

Wait, it was allowed up until now?

[-] LustyArgonianMana@lemmy.world 20 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

Laws for physically harming children are super messed up. Children are legally nearly a slave class in this country. Their parents can 100% hit them ("within reason") and it's not child abuse. If a child retaliates at all, the child can actually have charges pressed against them by the parent.

I have heard numerous numerous stories of this exact situation: parent starts beating kid to discipline. it gets out of hand/kid won't tolerate any more, so they call 911. Police show up, tell kid not only are they not arresting parent, but it is parent's right to hit kid and discipline as they see fit (within the law). But if parent wants they can see about charges to kid if kid hit them or destroyed property.

This is also very similar as to what happens when women call for domestic violence - the police threaten to arrest the victim. Really really often. It's almost like police are domestic abusers themselves.

[-] lugal@lemmy.world 7 points 4 months ago

Patriarchal violence...

But true, the US is one of the few countries that didn't sign the children's rights convention

[-] skuzz@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

Sources please. Never heard this. Always heard the cops do little, sometimes heard the system works. Have not heard cops tell kids they can be hit. (Edit: not doubting, just more in a wtf state.)

[-] LustyArgonianMana@lemmy.world 4 points 4 months ago

I mean, these are personal stories people have told me. That's my source. I've spoken with thousands of people about their childhood trauma from tons of different backgrounds, including foster children.

Look at child abuse laws in your state. How are they defined? Anything short of that is completely allowed as discipline. If you give me your state (or name an example state if that's too personal), I'll post the laws.

If you'd like a resource to verify that, either call your local CPS office or non-emergency police. They are public servants. Ask them. They will tell you. It's completely true. You can even put locks on your fridge and partially starve your kid as long as it doesn't threaten their lives.

[-] lemmyseikai@lemmy.world 4 points 4 months ago

Technically in AZ you can rap the knuckles of a student with a ruler. You'll still get fired for hitting a kid but I am pretty sure you are safe from a lawsuit.

[-] RedAggroBest@lemmy.world 5 points 4 months ago

Catholic schools still hit kids, iirc. Fairly certain it's legal in private schools. (In AZ)

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