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submitted 4 months ago by shea to c/random

i was thinking maybe we're more optimistic about how fast society can advance than in the past and thats being reflected in our media. like Asimov stuff vs star trek vs cyberpunk, bladerunner, type stuff being set like 50-100 years from now instead of like, the year 3000+. maybe im wrong

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[-] synae@lemmy.sdf.org 8 points 4 months ago

I'm not very well-read so my opinion comes from a select well-known big hit novels/series, but mostly film/tv and also a vague, surface-level knowledge and understanding of themes, settings, etc of some of the important works I haven't read


IMO a lot of earlier scifi was conceiving of possibilities or coming up with weird ideas and building a world and narrative around them, and sometimes you can't make a reasonable way for this to occur from where we are in our reality. So you do "a galaxy far far away" or 10,191 or something so far out that earth is a long-forgotten planet, and now you are doing something more similar to high fantasy world building, and can do whatever you want.

Versus a later generation of sci-fi stories that are cautionary tales about things that could become invented, and how they would integrate and affect our current societies over a (relatively) small number of years.


I'm on my phone so I don't want to completely rewrite what I just wrote, but I do want to clarify/correct that this is not actually "earlier" vs "later" - there are examples of both all throughout scifi history - but perhaps what has entered the mainstream via adaptations, smash hits, cult classic, etc. pathways. Basically it depends if the author is writing a cautionary tale or metaphor, developing a conceptual & epic universe, telling an allegorical story, or whatever else - and then oftentimes popculture dictates which ones people become familiar with.

Anyway it's super early and as I said I'm on my phone, so I hope these thoughts are coherent and at least vaguely interesting to you. I found your question thought provoking and wanted to respond. Cheers

[-] pigeonpaints 2 points 6 days ago

Sorry. I don’t mean to respond to everyone’s engaging comments, but just wanted to tell you that this is a very interesting point I hadn’t even thought of. The difference between grand, epic high fantasy sci-fi versus more grounded, urban storytelling. And even then, some of the more notorious franchises take both approaches.

Eh, anyway, I don’t want to regurgitate the thoughtful points you already made, so I won’t. Thanks for sharing. Best!

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