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submitted 2 months ago by MicroWave@lemmy.world to c/world@lemmy.world

A new law has come into force in Hungary which threatens to push thousands of Ukrainian refugees on to the streets or back to Ukraine.

The regulation restricts state support for Ukrainians to those who come from parts of Ukraine directly affected by the fighting caused by Russia's invasion.

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[-] alcoholicorn@lemmy.ml 3 points 2 months ago

Suspend Hungary in Schengen due to Hungary making it easier for Russians to come to the EU.

Would you prefer they stay in Russia and get drafted? Decreasing the flow of troops and arms into the region is good for the people who live there or ever want to return.

[-] andrew_bidlaw@sh.itjust.works 16 points 2 months ago

Usually, russians coming to EU are russians who are safe from being drafted.

[-] vxx@lemmy.world 10 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

spies and saboteurs additionally to the wealthy.

[-] FelixCress@lemmy.world 10 points 2 months ago

Would you prefer they stay in Russia and get drafted

I would prefer Russians to stop supporting Puta.

[-] alcoholicorn@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 months ago

Can't very well support Putin militarily, politically, or economically if they've fled the country.

[-] kautau@lemmy.world 10 points 2 months ago
[-] alcoholicorn@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 months ago

How? Do you see people who fled Russia voting for Putin? Paying taxes? Getting drafted into the military? All things they'd be doing if they didn't flee.

[-] YeetPics@mander.xyz 3 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

They go onto forums and post endless drivel unworthy of listening to in an attempt to sew falsehoods.

Cough cough, ты скучаешь по дому, товарищ?

[-] alcoholicorn@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

They can do that in Russia.

What is false? That people who flee Russia don't pay taxes to Russia and sure as hell aren't going to get drafted?

I don't get how any of this is contentious.

[-] Gsus4@mander.xyz 7 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

If that were the case, the EU would have broadly negotiated and agreed on the policy. Unilateral decisions that impact everyone is not how the EU works.

[-] alcoholicorn@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 months ago

What do you mean if? Whether the EU negotiates an agreement, acts unilaterally, or sticks their heads in the sand has no impact on whether draft dodging hurts Russia's ability to carry out the war.

More people of fighting age fleeing Russia and Ukraine makes it harder for their governments to send more to their deaths and puts further pressure for peace negotiations.

Or are your negotiations and bureaucracy more important than the Russian and Ukrainian lives Hungary saved by taking people out of the war?

[-] Gsus4@mander.xyz 6 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

There are already ways for anti-war russians to come to the EU, but not visa-free travel, which is simply stupid towards a country that has a history of sending assassins, poisoners, saboteurs and military posing as "tourists".

This is not a problem for Orban of course, because he is putin's buddy, but it is a problem for every other EU country that hosts refugees, defectors, weapons production, people they want to intimidate, etc.

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