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The Wisconsin English teacher, Jordan Cernek, argues in the suit that the district violated his freedom of religion and free speech in mandating the use of the students' preferred names and pronouns.

A high school English teacher is suing a Wisconsin school district, alleging it did not renew his contract last year because he refused to use the preferred names of two transgender students.

Jordan Cernek's federal lawsuit alleges the Argyle School District violated his constitutional and civil rights to be free of religious discrimination and to be able to express himself according to his religious beliefs when it did not renew his contract because he refused to abide by a requirement that teachers use the names or pronouns requested by students.

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[-] Eggyhead@fedia.io 27 points 4 months ago

Are you telling me that if a kid named Timmy wants me to call him Tim, I should only be calling him Timmy? Fuck that noise.

[-] Cadeillac@lemmy.world 12 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

If you call him Tim bad things could happen. It's a slippery slope to child abuse

Edit: /s

[-] lath@lemmy.world 3 points 4 months ago

If you're the teacher of a classroom and it's not part of your contract to call Timmy as Tim, then little Timmy can go legally change his name to Tim.

[-] Samvega 9 points 4 months ago

then little Timmy can go legally change his name to Tim.

How I 'legally changed' my name:

  1. I told everyone that knew me by my old name what my new name was.

  2. This involved sending letters to places of business I had an account with, e.g. bank and utilities.

 

Do you have to do that for a nickname?

  1. No.

 

So, if Timmy says "I prefer Tim", is that going against a 'contract'? Doesn't seem so.

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[-] Bridger@sh.itjust.works 7 points 4 months ago

So the name on your birth certificate is "lath"?

[-] lath@lemmy.world 2 points 4 months ago

On Lemmy, I have registered with that nickname and as such I expect it to be used.

Is that so hard to comprehend?

[-] Samvega 8 points 4 months ago

On Lemmy, I have registered with that nickname and as such I expect it to be used.

Is that so hard to comprehend?

In school, the child asked to be referred to by a name, and as such they expect it to be used.

Is that so hard to comprehend?

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[-] Eggyhead@fedia.io 4 points 4 months ago

Im so glad you have insight on this. You see, I get a lot of international students in my class and I’ve had to deal with this type of thing a lot. Maybe you can help me out.

Let’s say I have a polish student whose name is “Żółć”, which is somewhat difficult to pronounce in English. After a few failed attempts, he just tells me he prefers “George” because it sounds close enough, he likes that it sounds like English, and is easier for everyone to pronounce. His English-speaking friends call him George as well.

Do I…

  1. Go on and call him George since he prefers it, everybody knows him as that, and move on with the lesson?
  2. Call his parents to request that they have his name legally changed to George so I can use it in the classroom, then butcher his actual name in front of his friends until they do?
  3. Assign him a nick name (not a pet name, because that might be a little weird) “Polish kid” or “Student number 8” so I can call him something easy, be technically correct, and disregard his preferred, yet technically incorrect name?

I could really use some help with this since it happens all the time. Please let me know what you think.

[-] lath@lemmy.world 1 points 4 months ago

Learn to pronounce their name. Duh.

[-] Eggyhead@fedia.io 5 points 4 months ago

OR, just bear with me…

Call them the name they’d prefer to be called because it’s easier than making a scene and nobody actually gaf.

[-] lath@lemmy.world 1 points 4 months ago

Never give up, never surrender!

[-] Cadeillac@lemmy.world 3 points 4 months ago

You could use more time outside, and less watching movies

[-] IzzyJ@lemmy.world 1 points 4 months ago

They aint surrendering bro, just on the other side lmfaooo

[-] lath@lemmy.world 1 points 4 months ago
[-] IzzyJ@lemmy.world 1 points 4 months ago

It really doesnt. People dont necessarily default to your side

[-] lath@lemmy.world 1 points 4 months ago

So they have to default on yours instead?

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