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The Wisconsin English teacher, Jordan Cernek, argues in the suit that the district violated his freedom of religion and free speech in mandating the use of the students' preferred names and pronouns.

A high school English teacher is suing a Wisconsin school district, alleging it did not renew his contract last year because he refused to use the preferred names of two transgender students.

Jordan Cernek's federal lawsuit alleges the Argyle School District violated his constitutional and civil rights to be free of religious discrimination and to be able to express himself according to his religious beliefs when it did not renew his contract because he refused to abide by a requirement that teachers use the names or pronouns requested by students.

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[-] lath@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

I did answer it, you simply failed to recognize it as such.

A school is an organization with a specific purpose. A teacher is an employee of that organization working there under a contract within a set of rules. The students are the beneficiaries of the services that organization offers. The teachers obligation is to provide those services as specified in their contract. Beyond that and other than the laws of the city and country they reside in, they are not obligated to provide any other service that is requested of them.

Demanding something that is beyond their obligations and expecting them to accomplish it unconditionally is an assholeish thing to do.

Ps: You presume too much. Just stuck to the written words and refrain the imagination that flows far beyond them. It will serve you better in the long run.

[-] Samvega 7 points 2 years ago

A school is an organization with a specific purpose. A teacher is an employee of that organization working there under a contract within a set of rules.

Are you LARPing being autistic? Because, as an autistic teacher of autistic students, I find your ignorant appeals to neutral logic pretty galling.

[-] lath@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago

Good for you for being an autistic teacher for autistic children. I presume you were hired specifically for that purpose with the required resources given in mind.

[-] Samvega 5 points 2 years ago

Nope. I didn't know I was autistic when I got this job. The class is not a special needs class. Children might be found to be autistic while in the class. Children might be judged by me and by trained support staff to have a high likelihood of being autistic without an official diagnosis, because CAMHS is a very overburdened system.

Another wrong assumption that you have made.

[-] lath@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago

I presumed incorrectly then. Thank you for clarifying.

The obligations of a teacher aren't just word of mouth or unspoken rules. Going beyond the obligations required by your institution makes you, it or both liable for blame when something goes wrong.

Not everyone wants to shoulder that blame, not everyone should be forced to shoulder that blame if they didn't sign up for it.

Your institution has policy, trained staff and wiling teachers, all explained beforehand. But that's just your case. You can't expect everyone to conform the same way when each of their circumstances may be different.

[-] Samvega 6 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Going beyond the obligations required by your institution makes you, it or both liable for blame when something goes wrong.

I've given students food many times, because they were hungry. I'm not a kitchen. I'm not a fridge. I'm not employed as a caterer.

I haven't been fired for it, nor told off.

Not everyone wants to shoulder that blame, not everyone should be forced to shoulder that blame if they didn't sign up for it.

You seem to live in a very scared headspace, where if you don't follow rules perfectly you will be fired. Is this because your behaviour is very strange, and you have to mask very heavily to not get in trouble? If so, that's not a feature of the world for everyone else, it's related more to your own individual differences.

[-] lath@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago

You seem to be very biased in your view. And I admit I am in mine.

I think all humans are human, despite our quirks and differences. And it's because of this that we can't come together and unite in our thoughts and views on life in general.

The rules are there to help when these differences come into conflict. If there is bias, it means they need to be adjusted. But they need not be removed. Think they're too rigid, then change them. But your lack of respect for them says enough about your own disillusionment with reality.

Are you frustrated with your own lack of ability to change things? Have you already given up? That's fine. I'm sure your intent to do good will succeed eventually, as long as you keep at it. One child at a time.

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