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submitted 3 months ago by Charger8232@lemmy.ml to c/privacy@lemmy.ml

It is truly upsetting to see how few people use password managers. I have witnessed people who always use the same password (and even tell me what it is), people who try to login to accounts but constantly can't remember which credentials they used, people who store all of their passwords on a text file on their desktop, people who use a password manager but store the master password on Discord, entire tech sectors in companies locked to LastPass, and so much more. One person even told me they were upset that websites wouldn't tell you password requirements after you create your account, and so they screenshot the requirements every time so they could remember which characters to add to their reused password.

Use a password manager. Whatever solution you think you can come up with is most likely not secure. Computers store a lot of temporary files in places you might not even know how to check, so don't just stick it in a text file. Use a properly made password manager, such as Bitwarden or KeePassXC. They're not going to steal your passwords. Store your master password in a safe place or use a passphrase that you can remember. Even using your browser's password storage is better than nothing. Don't reuse passwords, use long randomly generated ones.

It's free, it's convenient, it takes a few minutes to set up, and its a massive boost in security. No needing to remember passwords. No needing to come up with new passwords. No manually typing passwords. I know I'm preaching to the choir, but if even one of you decides to use a password manager after this then it's an easy win.

Please, don't wait. If you aren't using a password manager right now, take a few minutes. You'll thank yourself later.

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[-] unrushed233@lemmings.world 12 points 3 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Using 2FA on all accounts that offer it is just as important. And make sure to use a good, open-source TOTP client like Aegis on Android or Tofu on iOS.

Definitely make sure to backup your seeds in an encrypted format (e.g. Veracrypt container or GPG-encrypted files). If you lose your seeds, you lose access to your accounts.
I like to use the automatic backup feature in Aegis, which syncs my encrypted vault to my Nextcloud server. You can also enable compatibility with Android's backup API and use that if your ROM includes a backup solution like Seedvault.

[-] LordCrom@lemmy.world 4 points 2 months ago

What's frustrating is that most sites want your phone number. Even though it's less secure than totp, but that sweet sweet data using your phone number as a common index is irresistible

[-] capital@lemmy.world 1 points 2 months ago

It might not be any more private but I give out my Google voice number to people/businesses I don’t really want to hear from or suspect my data will be sold by.

What’s really frustrating is that some services detect GV (and other VOIP providers) and just say you can’t use it.

[-] LordCrom@lemmy.world 2 points 2 months ago

True. Even government websites refuse to verify you over a VoIP line.

[-] capital@lemmy.world 1 points 2 months ago

Forgot to add this bit in my first reply:

This is especially bad since I’m more confident that GV is less susceptible to a SIM swap type of attack since I can disable it on my account which is of course protected by real 2FA (not SMS).

Meanwhile T-Mobile has shown a few times that they’re vulnerable to SIM swap attacks.

[-] Appoxo@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 2 months ago

And best case on an actual separate device.
And if the company doesnt supply one, use your own at your own discretion /shrug

[-] unrushed233@lemmings.world 1 points 2 months ago

I don't really think a separate device like a phone is necessary to store 2FA tokens, the only option I would consider is a hardware key like YubiKey for storing TOTPs.

[-] trolololol@lemmy.world 1 points 2 months ago

Any comments on bit Warden for totp?

[-] unrushed233@lemmings.world 2 points 2 months ago

Personally I wouldn't keep my TOTP together with my passwords, but it's up to you

[-] NateNate60@lemmy.world 2 points 2 months ago

TOTP is standardised by RFC 6238 so all TOTP clients must comply with the standard and therefore work equally well. Pick the one whose UI you like the most and is otherwise good enough for your use case and personal preferences. It's similar to arguments over CPU thermal paste—its presence or absence makes a much larger difference than the method of application.

You do, however, want to pick something that is free and open-source and also popular. Google Authenticator (closed source) definitely is a functional TOTP client but you have to trust that the Google engineers have done a good job building a secure app. Since it's Google, they probably have, but a principle in security is that you should not have to trust more people than absolutely necessary.

[-] Appoxo@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 2 months ago
[-] trolololol@lemmy.world 1 points 2 months ago

Ok would you tell more?

this post was submitted on 14 Aug 2024
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