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[-] TrickDacy@lemmy.world 4 points 3 months ago

He has things in common with incels, but that doesn't make him one.

[-] primrosepathspeedrun@lemmy.world 4 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

philosophically he really really is, in the same way andrew tate (except for thinking he's hot, which incels don't do) is.

[-] TrickDacy@lemmy.world 1 points 3 months ago

It would be so easy to compare him to incels without saying he is one.

[-] primrosepathspeedrun@lemmy.world 3 points 3 months ago

he's an incel who got laid. philosophically, psychologically, socially, he still is. he just got his dick wet a few times. as much as they whine about it;the difference isn't big enough to waste valuable bandwidth defining.

[-] TrickDacy@lemmy.world 2 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

There is a big difference in a virgin and someone who fathered children.

And no I'm not defending him. He's a total piece of shit. Just not involuntarily celibate even if he shares some views with those who are.

I mean just as one example of how they're different: level of sexual frustration.

[-] primrosepathspeedrun@lemmy.world 3 points 3 months ago

just because he's fucked, doesn't mean he's gotten any better. doesn't mean he doesn't hate women any less. probably resents having to fuck one for his public image.

[-] TrickDacy@lemmy.world 2 points 3 months ago

And I never implied any of that. Just that it's silly to call someone a thing with a literal meaning as though words don't matter. And yes he's not any better off, just different.

[-] primrosepathspeedrun@lemmy.world 3 points 3 months ago

brevity, especially in explicitly political messages, matters. nuance WILL be lost, communication has two sides, and sometimes you cannot convey perfect truth, you need to lose a little fidelity. so "JD vance is an incel" is true enough for literal government work.

[-] TrickDacy@lemmy.world 3 points 3 months ago

"JD Vance is a misogynist"

Brief and accurate. Less confusing. Didn't need to make up anything untrue or stretch any definitions to something they aren't.

[-] primrosepathspeedrun@lemmy.world 2 points 3 months ago

incel is more poetic and gives more a sense of scale. 'misogynist' without elaboration feels smaller, less accurate.

its a compression issue, dear. sorry.

[-] TrickDacy@lemmy.world 2 points 3 months ago

Ugh yeah I don't agree that defying definitions of words makes something "poetic". The fact is that this entire thread indicates the issue, and the upvotes I got indicate I'm not alone

[-] nomous@lemmy.world 2 points 3 months ago

I agree, to me "he's an incel" is weak because to the not-terminally-online vast majority of people it's easily proven false.

He's married and has kids, he's not any more "involuntarily celibate" than Trump is.

[-] TrickDacy@lemmy.world 1 points 3 months ago
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