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[-] EvacuateSoul@lemmy.world 32 points 3 months ago

They did not wipe all the emails. Her team sorted through to send only the ones which were subpeonaed, which is what you are supposed to do.

And the DNC hack is what the original post probably meant, but people mix all this stuff up. Those were published on Wikileaks and generated super productive controversies, such as pizzagate.

And it isn't illegal per se to use private email. It's extremely common, but should be cracked down on. A big problem with it is age. Try telling your grandma she has to use a different email when she contacts you about certain topics.

[-] xor@infosec.pub 5 points 3 months ago

i didn’t say all, but all of the emails were subpoenaed. all of the wiped ones were done so illegally.

the DNC hack did show that they weren’t democratic, they were trying to hurt Sanders (with “Bernie Bros” and bullshit), they intentionally bolstered Trump to make republicans look crazy (oops), and colluded with Clinton to give her the nomination.
There was a lawsuit over this, but they lost because the DNC never actually promised to be Democratic… it’s just in the name.

and it IS illegal, per se, to use a private email server for government purposes. Always has been.
Nixon was impeached for deleting 8 minutes of his own personal audio recordings… as those records were subpoenaed, because you can’t keep any kind of private records of you conducting government business….

you’re just wrong about everything.

the FBI determined they did commit crimes, but there was no “criminal intent”. (which is only required of rich people, apparently).

[-] SolOrion@sh.itjust.works 11 points 3 months ago

Nixon was impeached for deleting 8 minutes of his own personal audio recordings… as those records were subpoenaed, because you can’t keep any kind of private records of you conducting government business….

That is such a gross oversimplification of why Nixon was impeached I don't even know where to start.

[-] EvacuateSoul@lemmy.world 4 points 3 months ago

Criminal intent is required for all crimes except those which are strict liability.

And you really ate the propaganda on the rest, not sure what else to say.

[-] xor@infosec.pub 3 points 3 months ago

plain facts aren’t propaganda…
although i don’t know what “on the rest” means….
they used BleachBit to make it intentionally unrecoverable. (it writes “bleachbit” over and over unless you change the default settings).
there was criminal intent.
she claimed to only have destroyed personal emails, but some of the recovered ones ones were in fact state business.
it’s pretty crucial for an informed democracy that we at least have records of what the government does….
i don’t think they should have “locked her up”, or that she should of got the democratic nomination or would’ve been a very good president….
but she’s still better than trump in every conceivable way….
the fact that the DNC tried to shoehorn in such a shitty candidate, and handed the election to cheeto hitler should be seen as a huge crime.
buttery males wasn’t even her biggest problem.

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