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[-] Nosavingthrow@lemmy.world 4 points 3 months ago

Do you suppose a yard is an option in those same areas?

[-] ilinamorato@lemmy.world 7 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

Yes. I live in one such area, in a city of many of them.

[-] Nosavingthrow@lemmy.world 1 points 3 months ago

So it's in a major city that also has heavy traffic, but also enough space for houses with spacious yards?

[-] ilinamorato@lemmy.world 4 points 3 months ago

That's why it has traffic, because it was built for low density.

[-] Nosavingthrow@lemmy.world 2 points 3 months ago

So the suburbs. Not a major city at all.

[-] ilinamorato@lemmy.world 2 points 3 months ago

I live about two miles from the city center of one of the 20 biggest cities in the United States by population. The nearest suburb to me is over ten miles away, in the opposite direction. The density of my neighborhood, according to the most recent census data, is over 3,000 (the definition of "city" is over 1,500). We're governed by city government and have no HOA. We get city trash pickup and our roads are maintained by the city DOT. We have city bus service and bike lanes maintained by the city. Our address includes the city name and zip code.

By pretty much any definition, I live in a major city and not in a suburb.

[-] Nosavingthrow@lemmy.world 1 points 3 months ago

Ah, so quite literally the definition of wasteful city planning.

[-] ilinamorato@lemmy.world 2 points 3 months ago

Like I said,

That's why it has traffic, because it was built for low density.

[-] Nosavingthrow@lemmy.world 1 points 3 months ago

My original response is in the context of the dude I originally responded to and the dude he responded to. In that same context, what's your point? Parks are tough to get to when you live in an incredibly expensive area?

[-] ilinamorato@lemmy.world 2 points 3 months ago

No. My point is that many cities in the United States are built to require both personal vehicles and private yards, meaning that if you want to both live in the city and also do anything outside, your options are limited.

[-] CompassRed@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

What do you mean? Almost every major city has suburbs (at least in my country). I live in one of the top ten most populous cities in the US and I live in the suburbs.

[-] Nosavingthrow@lemmy.world 1 points 3 months ago

Do you think the municipalities that surround major cities exist as part of the city? Is Brookfield 'Chicago'? Is Ferndale 'Detroit'? Is Long Island 'New York City'? Is Somerville 'Boston'?

[-] CompassRed@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

~~Yes. Long Island is New York City. I lived there and my address said New York, New York.~~

I brain farted. I lived in Staten Island, but the point stands. Staten Island is a suburb of New York and is in New York. My current living situation is identical with respect to my current major city. I live in a suburb, but my address says the name of the major city.

[-] Nosavingthrow@lemmy.world 1 points 3 months ago

Your point does not stand. Staten Island is not a suburb of New york. It is IN the boundary of New York City the same way Brooklyn is in the bounds of New York. That's why your address says New York.

[-] CompassRed@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

That's not how suburbs work. Suburbs aren't about municipalities - they're about zoning and proximity to an urban area. You clearly don't know what you're talking about and want to disagree with people who have first hand experience, so I'm not going to argue with you about this. Have a good one

[-] Nosavingthrow@lemmy.world 1 points 3 months ago

Ok, whatever you say.

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