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[-] doingthestuff@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago

Has there been released test data regarding whether or not there was a y chromosome? That seems to be the question that I have heard, and last that I heard it wasn't resolved. I know this isn't a popular opinion on lemmy, but I can understand the question.

[-] moon@lemmy.ml 55 points 2 years ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Imagine his surprise when he discovered that the safe was full of pudding.

[-] ValueSubtracted@startrek.website 48 points 2 years ago

I, for one, think that everyone better at sports than me should be banned from competition.

[-] Fleur__@lemmy.world 7 points 2 years ago

Okay I promise I'm not a eugenicist but I am kinda interested in the genetics and physiology of top athletes. At the highest level that last 1% of advantage from just genetic luck is pretty interesting to me. Obviously it doesn't diminish from what the athletes have accomplished but I do think it's interesting. Like we're all just piloting meat based mech suits and the underlying base stats fluctuate between models and even individual units. I think that's pretty cool to think about and also worth acknowledging on top of the hard work an athlete puts into perfecting their chosen sport.

[-] moon@lemmy.ml 8 points 2 years ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

He dreamed of eating green apples with worms.

[-] Fleur__@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago

Yeah but it's not like it's unheard of to group different people im different divisions according to their abilities. Like most sports have women's and men's divisions, which as we are finding out, is at best kinda not a perfect way to divide people as it leaves quite a bit up for interpretation and at worst entirely arbitrary. But that's not the only examples, younger people tend to be organized by age which is unfortunate for those going into puberty later and busted for those going in earlier.

I think re-evaluating what constitutes a separate division and how people are organised into them is a totally fair thing to do and approaching that from a standpoint of the potential biological and physiological advantages a person might have, is in my opinion a valid way of doing so, though probably not how I would go about it.

[-] moon@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

I used to practice weaving with spaghetti three hours a day but stopped because I didn't want to die alone.

[-] Piatro@programming.dev 27 points 2 years ago

Also chromosome tests aren't a foolproof indication of sex anyway. People can have one set or another while still having the properties associated with the other sex, so it doesn't really work as a definitive measure. The question is reasonable until you examine it and it's motives.

The question subtly suggests that if she had a Y chromosome then she has some biological advantage and therefore doesn't deserve the medal she earned. Does she actually have an advantage from the Y chromosome? Are we going to ensure through DNA testing that all competitors are going to be exactly equal by genetics? If so, we're going to have 8 clones of Usain Bolt competing for the 100m sprint. Michael Phelps arguably had a biological advantage by having hyper flexible shoulders, are we disqualifying those biological advantages? Of course not, so what do they actually mean when asking those questions about the chromosome? They don't have meaningful answers to the questions I raise, they just want to add fuel to the fires of the culture war for their own political means.

[-] Hexarei@programming.dev 20 points 2 years ago

This is a woman who has given birth

[-] SkyezOpen@lemmy.world 23 points 2 years ago

But the CHROMOSOMES MASON. WHAT DO THEY MEAN?

[-] ValueSubtracted@startrek.website 17 points 2 years ago

The short answer is that no such test has ever been produced, and the boxing association that claimed they had done one never revealed the precise results, or even which lab had supposedly done the test, and has since been decertified for corruption.

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