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[-] Ebby@lemmy.ssba.com 67 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Would be nice if we eliminate tipping alltogether and instead workers were paid well.

When a kiosk asks for a tip, we've gone too far. Heck, I've seen a fully robotic "barista" ask for a tip with no human whatsoever.

[-] jeeva@lemmy.world 21 points 2 months ago

Yeah, though a nice thing for those who need it my immediate worry was "well, this may mean companies lean further into tipping because yay tax free" rather than working towards just paying workers.

Humtum.

[-] WhatAmLemmy@lemmy.world 9 points 2 months ago

It is a neoliberal solution that ensures "nothing will fundamentally change" for the better.

[-] Nemo@midwest.social 1 points 2 months ago

We're only paid well because of tipping. If you like a living wage, there's exactly one industry that's figured out how to pay it.

And we shouldn't mess with that.

[-] Ebby@lemmy.ssba.com 10 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

I understand that position. My SO works a tipped job. There are good days and bad days.

But from the perspective of the customer, we're paying anyways, so the money is there. We'd prefer fewer shenanigans in the transaction and upfront honestly. I'm not their employer and deflecting responsibilities to the customer weakens any bargaining or leverage employees have for better conditions. After all, employers are only as valuable as the income and benefits they provide; offload responsibilities and you reduce the employer give-a-shit quotient.

I know this is a touchy subject with lots of finger-pointing; that's how progress gets stalled. I can't say you're wrong because you're not. But I would like to arrive at a solution where tipped workers are paid, at least, identical to what they currently earn without relying on the tipping culture.

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