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Within hours of a local 17-year-old boy being arrested for the mass-stabbings in Southport, a seaside town in northwest England, untrue narratives started circulating on social media naming him as “Ali al-Shakati”—a Muslim migrant to the UK—alleging that he was on an MI6 watchlist, and that he was an asylum seeker who was known to the Liverpool mental health services.

None of this was true, but research by Dr Marc Owen Jones, an expert in digital authoritarianism, has traced how this kind of speculation rapidly notched up 27m impressions on social media.

The self-proclaimed misogynist and alleged rapist Andrew Tate, with nearly 10m followers on X, posted a false image of the supposed attacker, claiming he was “straight off a boat”—even though by then the police had told us he had been born in Cardiff 17 years ago. But that, according to Tate, was a lie promoted by what he calls “the Matrix”.

One of the most prominent amplifiers of this untrue information was a shadowy organisation calling itself Channel3 Now. Quite who is behind this outfit is unclear. Investigative journalists soon found that it had started life as a place for Russian car rally videos. It may be now run out of an address in Pakistan or the US. That’s the joy of Musk’s beloved “independent media”—you haven’t got a clue who half of the fabulists are.

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[-] scrubbles@poptalk.scrubbles.tech 72 points 3 months ago

I went on FB a while ago just to see how bad it was, and it's so horrible. I know the article is about Twitter, but all social media is like this. Everything everywhere is just bots feeding that everything is scary.

I live in Seattle, and according to any facebook post by bot or person it's just a constant warzone of homeless people and liberals just setting fire and causing crime. It's so disheartening. I have no idea how to fix it either, it's just outright lies, and terrified suburbanites just eat it up.

[-] TheOneCurly@lemm.ee 23 points 3 months ago

I tried for a while fighting in my local facebook groups, but it just served to make me mad and didn't put a dent in the constant barrage of nonsense. I started blocking them all and finally just stopped using facebook entirely.

It's sad since those are really the only online groups for my town. I just have no interest in engaging in the local community now.

[-] scrubbles@poptalk.scrubbles.tech 21 points 3 months ago

Local groups are the absolute worst. I realized exactly what you did, that it's the absolute worst most horrid people in my area all together. Nextdoor was even worse. I remember (no shit) a picture of a black man walking down a sidewalk with a caption "Anyone know why he's here?". I was horrified that my neighbors were like that, just the absolute horrible racism in doing that.

[-] Devi@beehaw.org 14 points 3 months ago

My local nextdoor has an issue with non white people in vans. Like normal builders eating their lunch and Sharon down the road is posting "Anyone know why this man is here? Stayed there for 45 minutes, very suspicious, might be stealing dogs".

[-] scrubbles@poptalk.scrubbles.tech 16 points 3 months ago

I legit chuckled at the ending. Because that is exactly how they write comments. Some stupid fucking thing in their brain, "Black people steal dogs". They heard somewhere that a dog went missing and their critical thinking skills go "The boogeyman black person obviously did it"

[-] TheRtRevKaiser@beehaw.org 10 points 3 months ago

It's practically a guarantee that this Sharon's dog is the most obnoxious, poorly trained little shit to ever walk the earth on four legs, too. Nobody wants your fucking dog, Sharon, it's an unholy terror.

[-] tyler@programming.dev 3 points 3 months ago

Sadly there are dog fighting rings and the little yappy dogs get stolen all the time for bait…

[-] BCsven@lemmy.ca 12 points 3 months ago

People with too much time. My wife had a busy kid drop off/pickup / work schedule. If she was done work early she would park a block away from school and sleep in the car till dismissal time...some Karen came out complaining she can't sleep in her car and needed to leave. lol

[-] Devi@beehaw.org 7 points 3 months ago
[-] Teknikal@eviltoast.org 21 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

I've never had a Facebook account but been questioned by UK police who demanded my non existent Facebook account maybe a dozen times.

Unfortunately I'm now on benifit having lost my job and they keep bring up damn Facebook and trying to make me make an account.

There's something badly wrong here, don't use Facebook imo I honestly think it's some kind of trap at this point.

[-] Gsus4@mander.xyz 9 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

Some kids once told me that if you're not on shitbook you don't exist...maybe they're cops now.

[-] Frederic@beehaw.org 17 points 3 months ago

Imagine in Canada, where real news media like TV, newspaper, etc, cannot be used by Meta (FB, IG, etc). So in a Canadian facebook feed, you only have conspiracy and right-wing false info, that's it. For the people who took their info from FB, they are flooded by fake/alarming news.

[-] scrubbles@poptalk.scrubbles.tech 14 points 3 months ago

Unintended consequences for sure. No news is a good idea on FB, except then all you have is fake BS. Man people will always find ways to make things worse.

[-] Gsus4@mander.xyz 8 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

We were lucky the KGB didn't have access to social media tech

...were.

[-] jarfil@beehaw.org 5 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

I've been going to Facebook as of late, following some science, comics, LGBT+, and MLP authors. The off-topic stuff I get, are some news, airplane stuff, dashcam videos, and so on.

I just checked my Twitter feed, it's full of ponies, furries, space, and some game memes, plus random ads. My alt account is still full of R34.

I get 0 news about where I live, I refuse to follow any politicians or influencers on either platform.

Just opened Chrome, and the first 2 pages of Google suggested links, are all stuff I want to read (mostly science related).

The Algorithm giveth and The Algorithm taketh away. Tame thine Algorithm to thy desire.

[-] Ilandar@aussie.zone 8 points 3 months ago

It doesn't matter whether your feed is "tamed", though. This is a massive issue that extends well beyond the happy fantasy land you've created filled with rainbows and ponies. Even those who don't use mainstream social media at all are affected when it influences the real world.

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