I get it, mostly along the lines of the fact that the time for joking about this is over. It's really not funny anymore, and I didn't mean to offend or discourage. I just wish there was a big enough fire lit under more Americans rearends before the social security payments stop and yeah, I don't want to think about what that means right now.

I have worked with the EFF, the CSE (which does incredible and essential work in the US south), I have helped LGBT Americans stuck in the gulf south in ways that I cannot legally discuss, I have worked with abortion funds both raising money and drumming up support, and I have been in the vicinity of stun grenades more than once. My camera has seen a lot and raised a lot of money/volunteers for orgs. I am proud of my work, as you should be of yours.

We have both done good work. We have both tried to make the world a better place.

Ah, I see you are someone doing something! Well now I know you're not just another lethargic devil, yes there are tons of people trying to do good work but there's tons more work need to be done. We both not only need to keep up what we're doing but we need to do even more. People like us have our work cut out for us at a time like this.

You started this conversation shitting on all US citizens because of what’s happening. There are tons of us trying to fight it, but you used your experience and wisdom and keyboard to attack all of us in one fell swoop. To discourage people.

Seeing as my first post was an acknowledgment to someone elses post (who doesn't seem to be getting the same pushback from you as I am for some reason?) I don't think I started it. And when did I ever say "ALL Americans"? It says "Americans," like, plural for American, as in there are Americans who are sitting there watching Trump tear apart their country and are doing nothing about it. That's not to disparage the work being done over there, ffs I personally know a lot of Americans who are doing far more than the both of us combined! ::Gestures broadly at the situation:: It's still not enough though.

But I get it man, you're fucking pissed off and anxious as you rightfully should be, I am too. Anyone who isn't scared right now is fucking stupid. Maybe this'll cheer you up - I recently (sorta) reconnected with an old friend, a really good friend of mine from back in the day who I still talk to on and off. His whole life and the whole time I knew him he was the last person in the world to care about politics, classic normie American catholic who loves his baseball and fantasy sports, keg parties no shirt on the whole nine yards. He's still very much that guy, but even he is becoming politically conscious and is starting to ask the right questions. If there's anyone that needs to be reached it's that complacent majority type like him, and they're being reached my dude. Hearing him talk like that gave me an internal supernova of hope.

If only there were a list of names... and addresses...

Americans really still just look on and do nothing while the Trump administration is tearing the country apart

That's my deal. What have you done to defend your community and home today? Or yesterday?

EDIT - Assuming you're an American resident and if not why the fuck are we having this conversation.

I feel like you're proving my original point.

I was open enough to share a list of things i've done, do you mind sharing yours?

Is being smug and looking down on people from your high horse worth it? Are you enjoying yourself?

This is why I don't share the things I've done to try and help, because random people on the internet who have done nothing say shit like this. Like I said, there's no winning, i'm either bragging or lying. You asked I answered, and you're still not happy.

EDIT - I was open enough to share a list of things i've done, do you mind sharing yours?

He also looks like a cop and I don't trust like that.

Most of this was done by the Russians to destabilize America:

"Russia should use its special services within the borders of the United States and Canada to fuel instability and separatism against neoliberal globalist Western hegemony, such as, for instance, provoke "Afro-American racists" to create severe backlash against the rotten political state of affairs in the current present-day system of the United States and Canada. Russia should "introduce geopolitical disorder into internal American activity, encouraging all kinds of separatism and ethnic, social, and racial conflicts, actively supporting all dissident movements – extremist, racist, and sectarian groups, thus destabilizing internal political processes in the U.S. It would also make sense simultaneously to support isolationist tendencies in American politics"."

• https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foundations_of_Geopolitics#The_West

Unfortunately there's also a legion of liberals that will sacrifice their lives for The Markets and defend their billionaire lords because "We need the ~~church~~ billionaires for society to function, what is society without ~~God~~ billionaires holding it together?"

Maybe if we peacefully occupy some sidewalk that these oligarchs never walk on for another 40 years, that'll teach them!

It's almost as though Democrats are beholden to the same corporate sponsors/donors as the Republicans or something.