[-] imadabouzu@awful.systems 4 points 1 year ago

Isn't the primary reason why people are so powerful persuaded by this technology, because they're constantly sworn to that if they don't use its answers they will have their life's work and dignity removed from them? Like how many are in the control group where they persuade people with a gun to their head?

[-] imadabouzu@awful.systems 4 points 1 year ago

I can't say I know what Liongate's plan is, precisely, but I think you're hitting this on the head.

Remember. Most corporate strategy could be summarized as persuading investors for more debt. It doesn't really tell the whole story of what is or will happen, only what needs to be said loudly in a room full of fools holding the money bags.

[-] imadabouzu@awful.systems 4 points 1 year ago

I'm actually, not convinced that AI meaningfully beyond human capability actually makes any sense, either. The most likely thing is that after stopping the imitation game, an AI developed further would just.. have different goals than us. Heck, it might not even look intelligent at all to half of human observers.

For instance, does the Sun count as a super intelligence? It has far more capability than any human, or humanity as a whole, on the current time scale.

[-] imadabouzu@awful.systems 6 points 1 year ago

I'm ok with this, because I guarantee you ~~an accidental medium or copy failure~~ a crypto rug pull on their NFT will still get them in the end. Thanks for playing I guess.

[-] imadabouzu@awful.systems 4 points 1 year ago

I don't entirely agree, though.

That WAS the point of NaNoWriMo in the beginning. I went there because I wanted feedback, and feedback from people who cared (not offense to my friends, but they weren't interested in my writing and that's totes cool).

I think it is a valid core desire to want constructive feedback on your work, and to acknowledge that you are not a complete perspective, even on yourself. Whether the AI can or does provide that is questionable, but the starting place, "I want /something/ accessible to be a rubber ducky" is valid.

My main concern here is, obviously, it feels like NanoWriMo is taking the easy way out here for the $$$ and likely it's silicon valley connections. Wouldn't it be nice if NaNoWriMo said something like, "Whatever technology tools exist today or tomorrow, we stand for writer's essential role in the process, and the unethical labor implications of indiscriminate, non consensus machine learning as the basis for any process."

[-] imadabouzu@awful.systems 4 points 1 year ago

Yessir. Although I made the mistake of making a reservation at the new courtland grand and long story short have no idea if my reservation actually still exists or not so hey there's that.

[-] imadabouzu@awful.systems 6 points 1 year ago

Yeah that's totally fair, I just was tailgating the sneer I guess.

Almost never do they find a solution in anything in the left side of politics.

That's a good point, and I think it speaks well to their savior complex. They want above all to push the guilt and discomfort of social issues away so they don't have to live in the discomfort of reality. Dogma does this, and it really doesn't matter if you have the veneer of science or the mythology.

[-] imadabouzu@awful.systems 5 points 1 year ago

Like, it seems to me that there’s a notable asymmetry here!

I think that's a great framing here.

[-] imadabouzu@awful.systems 4 points 1 year ago

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My understanding is that it was renamed or rebranded to Strawberry which itself nebulous marketting maybe it's the new larger model or maybe it's GPT-5 or maybe...

it's all smoke and mirrors. I think my point is, they made some cost optimizations and mostly moved around things that existed, and they'll keep doing that.

[-] imadabouzu@awful.systems 5 points 1 year ago

This definitely reminds me of something I heard in the above video, which I think is super important. Like of course things like memory or computers are metaphors. But like, isn't everything metaphors? To your point, the "computation" of a transistor is in fact our interpretation of an activity that obviously isn't actually the thing we're seeing it as. Even a von neuman machine isn't actually, a turing machine -- it has practical limitations that theoritical turing machines don't!

But just because something or anything is a metaphor, doesn't mean it isn't useful. It's just, incomplete.

[-] imadabouzu@awful.systems 5 points 1 year ago

I definitely don't claim anything about consciousness. But I also don't think think things have to be conscious to be interesting, or for me to care about them.

Hell, my mom is dead, and definitely not conscious. But I still think about her and care about her. And my memories of her, still impact my life and behavior in strange ways.

I get where you're coming from, and I'm not trying to make normalizing reductive claims that things -are the same-. But things that are different by some means can also share things by other. I think it is a useful perspective to have.

Computation and computer metaphors are helpful, atleast to my thinking. But even I don't argue that it's a privileged position. Lots of words and metaphors can work.

[-] imadabouzu@awful.systems 3 points 1 year ago

It absolutely is effective -- but there's economics at play. You can't 100% close the whole on anything. Scrappers can themselves employee expensive techniques to try to sort or clean content pre-training.

But altering the economics is meaningful, even if it won't give you strong guarantees. Big, maximalist systems fall from a million paper cuts. They live or die on the economics of the smaller parts.

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