Dealerships and used car salesmen are the scum of the earth. Buying private party is an annoying amount of legwork but you save a few grand by doing so and it's not so bad if you have "car friends" to help you through the process. I'm a big fan of the $5k 10-year-old "normal car" with 100k miles or so.

this is coming from the person who said

most people should only need to leave the 50 or so kilometers around them maybe once a year.

last week. all praise the lemmy integration, block button works now