[-] Naadan@lemmy.ml 6 points 21 hours ago* (last edited 12 hours ago)

China is lead by a communist party, aimed at transitioning their nation into the first phases of socialism by 2050, right?

In that sense, they are indeed socialist, though practically they're controlling their economy to go in that direction, so it does have captalism too, but that is not an issue as long as it is going well in the socialist direction.

And they seem to be doing well on their goals of reducing poverty, pollution etc.

So yes, they are indeed socialist because their principles and aims are.

Though, I don't think many folk are against that too. Mainly folk who are bombarded by stereotypical definitions of the left and socialism.

[-] Naadan@lemmy.ml 1 points 21 hours ago* (last edited 21 hours ago)

If tangible improvement is made possible then the people would be in more support of the promise in the future, right?

So not as compensation, but a sample/example that the planned future is possible?

[-] Naadan@lemmy.ml 1 points 21 hours ago* (last edited 21 hours ago)

So different increments with different groups?

And Che was not the leader, but Fidel, right?
And wasn't it anti-imperialist/anti-colonialist in nature, which gave them lot of local support?

I've read some quote/excerpt by Che or so about how local support is what is important for irregular forces.

"Hurr wut about the drones and tanks murica fuck yeah f22 m16" Well maybe not that exactly, but thats the gist.

They have a point tho. Unless your org has physical means, wouldn't that be an issue? Or/And you'd have to a portion of such forces sympathetic to your movement.
Still needs incremental public support, right?

that's what oppressors want all oppressed to think, that its futile to resist, especially outside whatever rules they set up.

I agree with that, but I think they also encourage infighting and adventurism so that things would never advance into a mass support level.

I don't know much about USAmerican politics, but isn't most of black votes with the Dems? And incase of anti-slavery stuff, isn't the Rep president Lincoln famous about the topic? Though, I think it was more about the secession.

So I think it not might be just hate or resentment, but different pov's(which maybe right or wrong). I do agree with material interests aspect of groups tho.

US revolution had 30%

Would there be a similar amount of supporters for one in USA now?
And weren't that lead by USAmerican capitalists who had amassed resources? For a similar thing, wouldn't the people planning to do the same, need the same?
Mass support would be very important there, right? Where the people support the resource acquisition?

And I'm not too well-versed on theory, so maybe I'm confused with the term incrementalism. Maybe it'd be better to call it more along lines of "Ground setting".

[-] Naadan@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Incrementalism towards a revolution, then?

Revolution in Russia had the WW1, China, Cuba, Vietnam etc had anti-colonialism/anti-imperialism.

Revolution would need mass support, right? So the good people need to incrementally increase support among the populace too, right?

[-] Naadan@lemmy.ml 1 points 3 days ago

But maybe over a few generations, with tangible improvements in each?

[-] Naadan@lemmy.ml 9 points 4 days ago

The folk wanting to restrict it probably don't want to respect autonomy too much.

[-] Naadan@lemmy.ml 7 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

India

Manipur seems to be still burning.
There seems to be 'understanding' with China on border issues

If you were asking about election news, the RW party, got a 3rd term and is 6 months in. They did lose seats and had to form a coalition govt. So their plans to rewrite the constitution seem to be on a hold.

[-] Naadan@lemmy.ml 10 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

Blushes back at you and passes away after a few days then?

[-] Naadan@lemmy.ml 7 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

Blushes back at you and passes away

Is this meme meant to provide awareness about revisionist evil or excesses?

[-] Naadan@lemmy.ml 7 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

I don't know if either of you have ever lived in a Marxist-Leninist country (as in lived, not just visited). I was born in one. I lived in another for five years. I've seen the before and after, first-hand.

Could you please name those countries? And share your experiences, if possible? Were they not Marxist?

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