Yes, I agree. My point was left v. Right or anything like that. I was just pointing out that it's another label I've seen thrown out label I've seen thrown out there in the last few years when trying to discredit people.

I guess my point didn't come off they way I meant it looking at all of these replies.

I'm sure most are real, but am curious as to how many bots there are in the amount.

I'm thinking in terms of the future.They'll have profit incentives to find ways acquire whatever data they can profit from. While they may not be able to do certain things now, companies like this chip away bit by bit in the long term.

With their incentives, resources, and prior behavior, I'm not certain what they can add would be worth whatever the positive result of their profit making activity.

Edits: spelling.

Is this some kind of bot posting this ancient news? Can't wait until it posts the breaking news of which side won WW2.

I guess I've been lucky enough not to be firehosed with it immediately. Guess I'll come across it more as I subscribe to more communities.

Yeah, I don't want to see humanity keep on going like this. The profit incentive in some ways can increase the speed at which something develops, but it feels like we're outgrowing it now that we have so many good communication/collaboration tools.

The profit squeeze on everything feels like it does more harm than good.

Perhaps the various concensus theories and mechanisms that came out of crypto could somehow give inspiration on ideas to protect this service from the shitty financial actors that come in and ruin all of the good services.

I'm not saying actually using crypto, just maybe some of their concensus mechanisms/ideas for preventing bad actors could be put in place.

Spez, or some other party involved in the financialization of Reddit and has an incentive to tilt opinion maybe. It's all the kind of things that seem to happen.

I have seen the kind of thing you're talking about plenty of times of Reddit and twitter in the past. Where users are shitting on a company, then all of these weird apologetic comments start coming out of nowhere, that nowhere near that many normal people would be spouting in defense of a shit move by a shit company.

The lack of negativity and divisiveness right away was noticable on here. The responses all looked much more respectful too.

Are Email addresses kept and logged anywhere, or are they discarded after registration?

For privacy reasons, it'd be nice if we could somehow have a reliable bot blocking/spam blocking method that doesn't require Email.

While Email adds a good layer of spam blocking just from the spam blocking the email providers are doing themselves, having an option to verify with Email OR jump through multiple hoops instead would be cool. Hoops that are difficult for a bot to be programmed to defeat all of them. Such as captcha, with a simple math equation, and something else all combined.

Just tossing ideas around, because this is all still being built out.

What are the typical actors in the Reddit and twitter spam scene? And what's the likelihood of each type setting up on here now?

• Product spamming, to advertise.

• PR companies that offer to sway community opinions, upvote/down vote for their clients.

• State actors with various propaganda intent.

• Preparing the bot accounts early in order to sell them to PR companies or other actors above.

• Actors incentivized to try to turn this service into a shit hole to keep users in the normal channels for some reason or other. Give it financial incentives or ability to control narratives on other platforms.

• Bots push financial related news stories or sentiment, eg. Trying to pump crypto markets.

These are just ideas off of the top of my head of the type of bots or actors running them. But I don't really have any experience with it, just wondering what everyone's thinking the intent is.

I'n thinking it could happen over 20-30 yrs, they won't collapse, but erode from where they are now.

A path to the decline could be decentralization of services combined with crypto currency. Money and infrastructure seems to be mostly what tech companies provide. Regulatory moats or other barriers to entry around payments logistics is a way they can still grip onto their positions.

Decentralized shopping, logistics (think decentralized Uber for package deliveries), and payments through crypto (BTC, stable coins, whatever), could be a path forward to break part of Amazon.

Web only services or middleman only services I think are a bit easier for them to sort of break out on their own, sort of like Lemmy and fediverse is. It'd just take longer for the quality of all of this to get better.