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[-] Hootz@lemmy.ca 151 points 1 year ago

Can we just go back to personal websites and forums?

Also fuck discord use mumble

[-] GnomeKat 32 points 1 year ago

looks around at the fediverse uh we kinda already are...

[-] halva@discuss.tchncs.de 26 points 1 year ago

please do show me a single messaging platform that can easily and sanely house a population of >50k people on the same server, and allows that for absolutely free, while providing reasonably high quality voice messaging and streaming with negligible latency

[-] Laser@feddit.de 25 points 1 year ago

While discord doesn't necessarily cost money, it for sure also isn't free. In fact it's the reddit problem but way worse. A proprietary non-searchable database with all content fully licensed to discord including the right to sub-license. At least, Reddit had an API and is still searchable through their public facing http. I mean I get people don't want their group messages readable by everyone, bit for large groups, it makes sense.

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[-] Serinus@lemmy.world 16 points 1 year ago

IRC + Mumble.

We had these things in 2007

[-] ILikeBoobies@lemmy.ca 13 points 1 year ago

Why would I ever want that?

I can’t think of a single instance where I want to be messaging 50k people at once

[-] ArmokGoB@lemmy.dbzer0.com 16 points 1 year ago

You're doing it right now.

[-] Silentiea@lemm.ee 6 points 1 year ago

I was gonna be like weeeell but the population of c/technology is in fact 52k so

[-] ILikeBoobies@lemmy.ca 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I am posting something publicly but I am not holding a conversation with all of you simultaneously

If this was equivalent then you would have never seen my message due to the time between ours

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[-] dai@lemmy.world 24 points 1 year ago

Discord is trash, had issues with a KBDFans product, something as simple as a search of a forum would have given me the solution. I had to talk to a human to get the required information. They sent me a link to a firmware to download and all was good.

If I was able to search a forum it would have been a 2 minute job, but I wasted someone else's time, on the other side of the globe.

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[-] lorty@lemmy.ml 12 points 1 year ago

Join my discord for tutorials on how to setup your own static webpage!

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[-] Spaniard@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago

The self hosted movement should be bigger!

[-] Toes@ani.social 105 points 1 year ago

I'm surprised that the service works at all in Russia. Isn't there some sort of sanction that disallows that? I think it's time for someone to look into that.

[-] hroderic@lemmy.world 57 points 1 year ago

The Russia government is probably happy to have people chatting in an unencrypted service

[-] vox@sopuli.xyz 10 points 1 year ago

messages between client and server are still encrypted tho so does it really matter

[-] Bristle1744@lemmy.today 6 points 1 year ago

No, because the MITM attack is the relevant government walking up to discord with a paper saying "I do what I want"

Man in the Middle = Government subpoena

[-] ben_dover@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

they are not even "in the middle" but rather "at the very end", since they're just getting the data directly from the service provider instead

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[-] joyjoy@lemm.ee 68 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Since when is Discord a proper place to get information? On larger servers, anything you type is gone forever after an hour due to the volume of messages.

[-] A_Random_Idiot@lemmy.world 20 points 1 year ago

Its not.

but people still insist on using it as a information store house. Much to the detriment of everyone.

[-] ImTryingLemmy@lemmy.world 15 points 1 year ago

For someone in Russia, the impermanence might be a desirable feature. I mean, there's always still IRC but Discord is all the rage these days.

Get off my lawn.

[-] Natanael@slrpnk.net 9 points 1 year ago

It's not even properly impermanent because somebody else can just archive everything, ironically giving them better overview than the actual members themselves

[-] flames5123@lemmy.world 12 points 1 year ago

Do you not know how to properly search in discord? Sure forums are better but a message in discord isn’t “gone forever” if you’re searching. It’s a pretty fast to search too, which is an insanely impressive feat due to the sheer amount of messages.

[-] LunarLoony@lemmy.sdf.org 6 points 1 year ago

Discord's search is a joke. You search for specific words and you get a load of results that are... just not that word, at all

[-] joyjoy@lemm.ee 4 points 1 year ago

Sure, but you also have to know to search for it.

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[-] beefontoast@lemmy.world 58 points 1 year ago

Is Lemmy going to be one of the only places we can go to get uncensored content? Even the mainstream UK and US news outlets are filtering things.

[-] L0rdMathias@sh.itjust.works 52 points 1 year ago

Lmao nah. Lemmy is just decentralized censorship. Anyone can ban or block anything else; anyone can start their own community instance and kill it on a whim. Multiple communities have already defederated in the less than a year that I've been on here.

Lemmy solves the issue of centralized censorship/echo chamber communities, by replacing them with individual personalized echo chambers that you get to censor yourself. It's a lot of work to set it up and sustain that type of situation, so it's not realistic for a rational person that does not have a severe internet addiction to waste their time and effort doing it.

[-] turkalino@lemmy.yachts 21 points 1 year ago

replacing them with individual personalized echo chambers

Which really wouldn't be that bad if instances were more clear about how they operate. Like, on the user signup page, there should be a big ol checkbox saying "I UNDERSTAND THAT ANYTHING THATS NOT A POSITIVE POST ABOUT COMMUNISM WILL GET ME BANNED" or whatever

[-] JohnEdwa@sopuli.xyz 10 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

It's been fun abusing a Lemmy bug (or an API feature, depending on how you look at it) that lets you see what a removed comment originally said on a certain .ml instance. Unsurprisingly, they almost always were something negative about China or Russia.

[-] bigMouthCommie@kolektiva.social 8 points 1 year ago

what are the symptoms of internet addiction, and can it be treated with alcohol?

[-] L0rdMathias@sh.itjust.works 12 points 1 year ago

Yes. It's basically required. Weed helps too, though many experts claim that you don't need to smoke it and simply touching grass will suffice but idk man. Better to play it safe and just take rips between sips.

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[-] pop@lemmy.ml 6 points 1 year ago

Lemmy is just decentralized censorship.

It more like the opposite. Federated instances can keep all the federated posts without ever deleting them. Then also sell and monetize it.

anyone can start their own community instance and kill it on a whim.

Shutting down an instance doesn't mean it's censorship. If a library shuts down if it can't stay up, is that censorship?

It's a lot of work to set it up and sustain that type of situation, so it's not realistic for a rational person that does not have a severe internet addiction to waste their time and effort doing it.

Lol, freeloader says what?

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[-] Splatterphace@lemm.ee 22 points 1 year ago

What? There's censoring all over this place!

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[-] Maggoty@lemmy.world 13 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

That's part of what the fediverse is about.

[-] Socsa@sh.itjust.works 11 points 1 year ago

Lemmy is massively censored. I just got another ban recently for taking about .ml bans in a .world thread.

[-] SorteKanin@feddit.dk 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

It's wrong to say that Lemmy is censored. Certain Lemmy instances censor more than others. Go to instances you like that don't censor the stuff you don't want censored.

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[-] btaf45@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

How does that work? Which server banned you?

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[-] ashley@discuss.tchncs.de 11 points 1 year ago

you sound surprised that western governments censor things in their news.

[-] QuadratureSurfer@lemmy.world 35 points 1 year ago

Looks like the Nordic countries have some of the best protections for their press.

https://rsf.org/en/index

The U.S. is ranked around 45th which is disappointing considering the first amendment is supposed to guarantee freedom of the press.

But in general western countries are far better than places like Russia, China, India, the Middle East, etc.

[-] Gabu@lemmy.world 33 points 1 year ago

You're completely ignoring self-censorship practiced by the press in favour of financial gains. "Oops, looks like Nestlé just paid us a lot of cash for an ad. I guess that story about their security force beating up a bunch of slaves won't be getting a page after all".

[-] pop@lemmy.ml 5 points 1 year ago

"Nestlé also p̶a̶i̶d̶ gifted/lobbied someone in congress, we can't be making the politician/billionaire look bad. We might lose our money tree"

People are fed so much clickbait/propaganda by their news, they end up believing ratings made by themselves.

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[-] pop@lemmy.ml 5 points 1 year ago

The U.S. is ranked around 45th which is disappointing considering the first amendment is supposed to guarantee freedom of the press.

Not really disappointing looking from the outside. Clickbait constitutions are good for propaganda for the populace. They tell you you're living in the best country in the world while the politicians propose death sentence for women who have abortions. Cause war crimes the world over while populace thanks them for their service.

"Disappointing" is putting it lightly to the amount of disgrace it has caused.

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[-] SorteKanin@feddit.dk 10 points 1 year ago

Lemmy isn't a place. Lemmy is just the software you use to access the Fediverse. Lemmy is not censored or uncensored - only specific instances can be censored or uncensored.

[-] systemglitch@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago

I see censorship on Lemmy approaching Reddit levels more often than I'm comfortable with. The same mods moved here unfortunately.

[-] SorteKanin@feddit.dk 7 points 1 year ago

Then go to other instances. Lemmy isn't censored, the instances you visit are. You are free to start your own instance without any censoring if you want.

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[-] ultra@feddit.ro 16 points 1 year ago
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