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[-] turkishdelight@lemmy.ml 67 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

Israel wants to destroy the Palestinian people, steal their land, destroy their homes, and build Jewish settlements there.

They have been doing this for morethan 70 years.

[-] ModernRisk@lemmy.dbzer0.com 57 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

“The soldiers stood watching, and after the settler attack ended, the soldiers began to search houses across the village, raiding several houses and taking shifts throughout the night and then left at 3:00 in the morning", they added”

What did their prime minster say - The most moral military in the world.

Yeah right… and the World “leaders” are just standing there staring at the shit that’s been happening.

[-] tux0r@feddit.de 39 points 8 months ago
[-] dwalin@lemmy.world 41 points 8 months ago

Religion has nothing to do with this. Its lebensraum and racism

[-] tux0r@feddit.de 8 points 8 months ago

Religion is the sole reason why Israel even exists and why Muslims hate the Jews.

[-] aleph@lemm.ee 27 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

That's an incredibly reductive oversimplification. The modern state of Israel exists due to the political Zionist movement which began in the 19th C and the sympathy for the Jewish people following Nazi Germany's eugenicist attempt to wipe them out.

A couple of millennia before that, you had the conflicts of the competing tribes and civilizations in the Fertile Crescent, which resulted in the Jewish diaspora.

Religion has typically been weaponized to justify one group of people taking control of resources and land from another, but it has rarely been the root cause per se.

[-] NoneOfUrBusiness@kbin.social 17 points 8 months ago

No? Muslims hate Jews because Zionists have been trying and succeeding in taking their homes for a hundred years. The Islamic position is and has always been "Jews hate you and will try to bring you down but no war crimes because they're people of the book".

[-] livus@kbin.social 11 points 8 months ago

I don't think so. Religion and ethnicity are convenient pretexts for stealing resources from one another or enslaving another culture for material benefit.

Go right back to the time of the Crusades, in the Rhineland massacres Christians were killing Jewish people and looting their homes. Someone always stands to gain.

[-] tux0r@feddit.de 3 points 8 months ago

Go right back to the time of the Crusades, in the Rhineland massacres Christians were killing Jewish people and looting their homes.

Around the year 800, many Saxons were killed, tortured or forcibly baptised on the orders of Charlemagne, which German paganism could hardly cope with. Every religion has its violent phase.

[-] livus@kbin.social 14 points 8 months ago

Sure. From memory the only one I've noticed not having violence is Jainism.

But I don't think religion causes the violence. I think it's a useful tool to manipulate people into violence. What is happening in Israel/Palestine is about land and arms deals and power elites using wars to cement their political power.

[-] Mrkawfee@lemmy.world 6 points 8 months ago

Try harder Hasbara

[-] merthyr1831@lemmy.world 5 points 8 months ago
[-] mightyfoolish@lemmy.world 14 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

This isn't religious. A bunch of trolls/liars came from Russia and Germany and said their ancestors left this land in the BC era.

Edit: These people also claim that the Palestinians are land Interlopers who came from some undisclosed part of Arabia.

[-] ChocoboRocket@lemmy.world 12 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

I originally typed 'Arguably the worst thing we've done' but the more I think on it, humans are generally terrible.

If it wasn't religion, it'd be racism, sexisim, geography based hate, abilisim, left handedness, phrenology, etc etc etc. Religion is just another lubricant to placate docile individuals, and justify the actions of hate focused individuals

I'm certain we could all live together in peace, but we're so tribalistic that the second anyone says their group is better than X because Y the majority of the population seems to lap it up at nearly any expense.

[-] fustigation769curtain@lemmy.world 11 points 8 months ago

Religious nationalism is even worse.

[-] illi@lemm.ee 10 points 8 months ago

If there wasn't a religion in play, people would just come up with different pretext.

[-] turkishdelight@lemmy.ml 5 points 8 months ago

Some religions are worse than others. This particular religions sees everyone else as Goy: something akin to slaves or animals.

[-] mightyfoolish@lemmy.world 21 points 8 months ago

Last Ramadan they literally went around blowing up cars. The one before, I believe they were putting concrete mix into the well water (they actually did this but I can't remember if this was an Israeli Ramadan tradition).

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