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James Lankford cites a veteran as partial reason for recommitting to Sunshine Protection Act, which has already passed in Senate

Archived version: https://archive.ph/QhlaG

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[-] Etterra@lemmy.world 62 points 8 months ago

I don't care whether they remove it or make it permanent so long as they just fucking pick one and stick to it.

[-] kzhe@lemmy.zip 6 points 8 months ago

I want them to keep it alternating and nt stick to it.

Daylight savings time saves 366 lives a year from traffic accidents alone Coate and Markowitz which while isn't that much is still worth the inconvenience.

Also,  2015 paper from the Brookings Institute claims a 7% drop in crime, when they extended by 4 weeks, we saved 60 million dollars. If we account for indirect costs like those of murder, rape, we get 246 million saved (Popular Mechanics)

Basically more light is good

[-] Sterile_Technique@lemmy.world 56 points 8 months ago

"transition periods in daylight saving time regulations are linked to a rise in total mortality and should be avoided in the interest of general well-being."

- National Library of Medicine

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7084938/

 

"Spring DST transition acutely increases fatal traffic accident risk by 6% in the US"

- A Chronobiological Evaluation of the Acute Effects of Daylight Saving Time on Traffic Accident Risk

https://www.cell.com/current-biology/fulltext/S0960-9822(19)31678-1?

 

"sleep disruptions during the Spring transition cause suicide rates to rise by 6.25 percent and all DoD to increase by 6.59 percent."

- Saving Light, Losing Lives: How Daylight Saving Time Impacts Deaths of Despair

https://www.gc.cuny.edu/sites/default/files/2021-07/Saving-Light%2C-Losing-Lives-How-Daylight-Saving.pdf

 

So, there's data supporting DST costing lives, saving lives, and not having any impact either way. I cherry-picked a few to illustrate the former, which paired with yours make for a more complete picture.

Overall, estimates on the lives lost side appear to be numerically higher; so taking ALL of it at face value, getting rid of DST would save more lives.

I'd vote to chop it if saving lives is your chief concern.

[-] CileTheSane@lemmy.ca 48 points 8 months ago

Basically more light is good

Cutting a foot of fabric off the top of a blanket and sewing it onto the bottom doesn't result in more blanket.

[-] Natanael@slrpnk.net 20 points 8 months ago

Permanent standard time is better for health, and the switch also kills people every spring and fall

[-] Rampsquatch@sh.itjust.works 18 points 8 months ago

It's not more light though.

[-] EssentialCoffee@midwest.social 46 points 8 months ago

Omg, please for the love of everything, get rid of the time change.

I don't care which way they pick, just get rid of it. It's absolutely useless.

[-] FartsWithAnAccent@lemmy.world 43 points 8 months ago

Fucking do it already, damn!

[-] Spitzspot@lemmings.world 23 points 8 months ago

Compromise and make DST permanent but 30 minutes ahead.

[-] Kadaj21@lemmy.world 20 points 8 months ago

Please not a .5 difference lol. Add the hour or take it away, but not the .5 please.

[-] MrJukes@lemmy.today 22 points 8 months ago

Ok, let's compromise. Half the year we can add the half hour and half the year we take it away. For the farmers or something

[-] squeakycat@lemmy.ml 7 points 8 months ago

You devil, you.

[-] Aurenkin@sh.itjust.works 14 points 8 months ago

Even better, nobody likes getting an hour less sleep but everyone likes getting an extra hour. Just move the clocks back one hour each year!

[-] ChowJeeBai@lemmy.world 3 points 8 months ago

Or better yet, adopt the 23 hour day.

[-] FooBarrington@lemmy.world 7 points 8 months ago

Be thankful you're not living in Nepal - they use UTC+5:45

[-] mx_smith@lemmy.world 2 points 8 months ago

So we can be 8 hours difference from India instead of 8 and a half.

[-] BigTrout75@lemmy.world 19 points 8 months ago

California, Oregon and Washington has all passed laws to do it, like 5 years ago, but it keep getting stalled. Should happen in like 10 years.

[-] odelik@lemmy.today 5 points 8 months ago

They keep getting stalled because they proposed bills to remain on DST instead of not participating. To remain on DST requires US Congressional approval and the bills were ignored and were never brought up to vote.

Washington is looking at putting forth another bill to stop participating in DST altogether since that only needs to pass the state legislators and Governor sign-off.

I'd prefer to stay on DST permanently, especially on the summer solstice where the sun sets super late and you can enjoy summer. In the end, I just want to stop dealing with the fuckery of DST.

[-] AngryCommieKender@lemmy.world 2 points 8 months ago

Probably because they tried it in the 70s and everyone hated it so much the switched back.

[-] KingThrillgore@lemmy.ml 19 points 8 months ago

Jesus Christ a Republican I agree with, what year is it?!

[-] survivalmachine@beehaw.org 10 points 8 months ago

An election year.

[-] ImTryingLemmy@lemmy.world 15 points 8 months ago

“As funny as this sounds, several years ago, I was walking in a Veterans Day parade, and a veteran … that was watching the parade, an older gentleman, gets up from his lawn chair – he actually walks into the parade route, shook my hand and said: ‘Before I die, would you end daylight savings time?’” Lankford recounted.
“He said: ‘I hate it. I’m in my 80s. I want you to get rid of daylight savings time before I die.’”

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Lankford’s bill would eliminate the time change by making daylight savings time apply year-round in the US.

So basically Lankford is bragging that he wants to do exactly the opposite of this (probably fictional) constituent actually wants. They don't grow 'em too smart in Oklahoma.

[-] Sotuanduso@lemm.ee 15 points 8 months ago

End or make permanent, the effect is basically the same in terms of convenience.

[-] Natanael@slrpnk.net 8 points 8 months ago

Standard time is better for health (and makes more sense from a practical standpoint)

Any arguments about sunlight, etc, are all nonsense because all you have to do is change your schedule if you insist on that

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[-] Sterile_Technique@lemmy.world 9 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

Republicans LOVE to use vets as a prop when it's convenient.

They'll also stab vets in the back if they're convinced doing so would own a lib or two - see: republicans block PACT act, denying healthcare to veterans in an effort to spite the blue team.

[-] johannesvanderwhales@lemmy.world 10 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

Doesn't seem to be a popular opinion but I like what we've got. Daylight savings is great in the summer when the days are long enough to keep it light the whole time I'm awake. But personally the idea of waking up for work in the winter and having it still be dark for 2 hours is terribly depressing. The sunset moving from 4:30 to 5:30 is not gonna make a huge difference in my ability to utilize sunlight in my day. Edit: Not a great look to downvote people for stating their opinion, people.

[-] Wogi@lemmy.world 5 points 8 months ago

The time changing twice a year causes enough stress that heart attacks spike 25% on the Mondays following the change.

Even my dogs hate it.

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[-] ristoril_zip@lemmy.zip 2 points 8 months ago

I mean, you're wrong because you're treating the times that work etc start & stop as somehow written in stone. So that deserves a down vote. We could have our schedules flex with the Sun if we wanted. Instead of flexing our labels of Sun positions to match our desired work start time labels.

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[-] GnomeKat 2 points 8 months ago

dont take the down votes personally, stating your opinion online risks people disagreeing. That's all the down votes mean is people saying they disagree. it's not a great look to add an edit complaining about downvotes. if they hurt too much maybe move to an instance that doesn't have down votes like blahaj.zone, i find it very peaceful to not be able to see downvotes and let's me worry less about stating my opinion on things.

also yeah I disagree with your comment but I can't downvote from Blahaj ;)

[-] johannesvanderwhales@lemmy.world 2 points 8 months ago

I have no idea if "feddiquette" is a thing but "downvote poor quality comments, not opinions that you disagree with" is pretty fundamental to how downvotes should be used. My feelings remain unhurt but I will call out shitty behavior.

[-] acutfjg@feddit.nl 3 points 8 months ago

You think using a platform as it's been designed is shitty behavior?

[-] johannesvanderwhales@lemmy.world 2 points 8 months ago

The platform has been designed to allow downvotes. If people downvote for shitty reasons, then yes, I think they're being shitty. The platform only dictates functionality, but humans dictate what's a good use of that functionality. Downvoting well-formed statements of opinion just because you disagree with them stifles discussion, which kind of defeats the entire purpose of making a discussion platform. Or, put another way, it's shitty.

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[-] GnomeKat 3 points 8 months ago

I don't think that was ever true even on Reddit. You can't control how people choose to use their vote and I feel that is how things should be.

[-] Twattymctwatterson@lemmy.world 8 points 8 months ago

These shitbags always do the opposite of what's right. Fuck daylight savings time.

[-] CptEnder@lemmy.world 6 points 8 months ago

I'd never vote for him, but damn I do respect Langford. The guy has zero fucks going against his own party.

[-] kzhe@lemmy.zip 4 points 8 months ago

Don't do it. Daylight savings time saves 366 lives a year from traffic accidents alone Coate and Markowitz which while isn't that much is still worth the inconvenience.

Also,  2015 paper from the Brookings Institute claims a 7% drop in crime, when they extended by 4 weeks, we saved 60 million dollars. If we account for indirect costs like those of murder, rape, we get 246 million saved (Popular Mechanics)

Basically more light is good

[-] Mouselemming@sh.itjust.works 12 points 8 months ago

https://sleepeducation.org/resources/daylight-saving-time/

As a non-scientist who didn't read the article you linked, I think it's less about the shift and more about the increased total hours of sunlight during the summer months that diminishes crashes and break-ins. Shifting the official time doesn't have any effect on total sunlight, that's caused by the Earth's tilt. I'm glad I had no reason to drive the last few days, because the shift messes with my tiny brain.

[-] bitchkat@lemmy.world 6 points 8 months ago

If it was that awesome with a 4 week extension, just imagine the possibilities of extending it year round! Just like the article says.

[-] survivalmachine@beehaw.org 3 points 8 months ago

Why do you say "Don't do it." And then say a bunch of things that agree it would be good? This proposal is advocating for making daylight saving time permanent.

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