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[-] knobbysideup@sh.itjust.works 37 points 7 months ago

Yet it's the sysadmin who gets blamed, not the developer. "How can you tune the database so this doesn't happen?"

[-] Tartas1995@discuss.tchncs.de 22 points 7 months ago

I am telling you this because hopefully it will make you feel a little better. Our head of it blames devs for slow queries.

[-] locuester@lemmy.zip 8 points 7 months ago

In my 30 years of experience, it is usually the devs.

[-] Tartas1995@discuss.tchncs.de 4 points 7 months ago

As a dev, yes usually. It is certainly the better starting point.

[-] stewie410@programming.dev 7 points 7 months ago

I'm the sysadmin (and transitioning to DevOps) at work, but the DBs are 100% in control of our two devs (one of which being the head of IT).

Apparently we're going to hire a third Dev, who will moonlight as our DBA -- oh, and for 30K/yr.

I'm sure this will go well.

[-] bassomitron@lemmy.world 6 points 7 months ago

At my job, it's almost always the dev team that is called first for bad DB performance (not always, because sometimes it is the server that's borked).

[-] Evotech@lemmy.world 5 points 7 months ago

Infinitely this, biggest pet peeve

[-] 14th_cylon@lemm.ee 31 points 7 months ago

So the guy died and decomposed in 10 minutes and somehow it mysql's fault?

[-] RustyNova@lemmy.world 27 points 7 months ago

Poor guy got sigkill-ed, but MySQL keeps going with the request

[-] nxdefiant@startrek.website 20 points 7 months ago

10 minutes for a process is essentially infinity

[-] OpenStars@startrek.website 10 points 7 months ago

Very big table, complex operations, much waiting, so yeah.

In this comic, bodily decomposition occurs at a "feels like" pace:-).

[-] RagingToad@feddit.nl 23 points 7 months ago

Allergic to Indices? If your database is slow just add more Indices until you have one on every column of every table! :-)

[-] ryan213@lemmy.ca 2 points 7 months ago

Sounds too good to be true.

[-] FreshLight@sh.itjust.works 11 points 7 months ago

The guy after him:

"Hmm since I don't feel like looking in the documentation for every possible key of this attribute, I'll just throw a distinct. And while I'm at it, let's do this for every attribute that I don't know the keys of"

[-] Bye@lemmy.world 10 points 7 months ago

How come people use sql instead of just using text files? I just use text files for everything

[-] lowleveldata@programming.dev 10 points 7 months ago

Is this a MySQL specific problem? I have witnessed a few dead queries on Sybase / Oracle / etc

[-] breadsmasher@lemmy.world 8 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

I don’t think its mysql specifically, but for some reason the worst systems I have used, all have mysql/mariadb as a database.

It seems shitty applications gravitate to mysql, use it poorly, then bring a bad name to mysql.

But given all my years of experience with it, MSSQL > Posgresql > Mysql > Oracle

[-] boonhet@lemm.ee 4 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

I feel like the popularity of the LAMP stack (or WAMP if you were just starting out your interest in software and hadn't yet moved to Linux) in the 00s and early 10s is to blame here. MySQL ended up being the default choice for people who didn't know much about databases.

Now that I know more than I did at the age of 14 when I first started learning programming... I'll be honest, I'm still likely to choose MySQL just because it's familiar. But at least I know what indices are now, and I try to avoid dependent subqueries :)

To be fair, I feel like I should use Postgresql more, I just haven't actually ever worked on anything that needed the cool data types it has extensions for.

[-] Semi-Hemi-Demigod@kbin.social 2 points 7 months ago

Databases need tuning for your workload, and most people just think it’s a big box where you can dump anything you want and it will work. And then when it chokes on a terrible query they blame the DBA.

This makes DBAs very cranky.

[-] vapeloki@lemmy.world 2 points 7 months ago

I was a DBA for over 10 years. Postgresql is superior to mssql in most ways. Especially replication.

But that does not mean that mssql is bad. MySQL is, oracle is.

[-] marcos@lemmy.world 3 points 7 months ago

Usually DBMSs have some small capacity to handle requests in parallel so everything slows down, but work is still getting done.

[-] AnnaFrankfurter@lemmy.ml 10 points 7 months ago

This is fake the pid of the younger guy is smaller than that of grandpa

[-] the_tab_key@lemmy.world 6 points 7 months ago

Their age is measured in CPU time

[-] tetris11@lemmy.ml 1 points 7 months ago

and their niceness increases with age

[-] palordrolap@kbin.social 2 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

Could be an instance of BSD where (so I hear) PIDs are assigned randomly from the unused numbers, or else the system has massive process churn going on elsewhere and the old timer is from a previous cycle of consecutive PIDs.

Some systems still have /proc/sys/kernel/pid_max set to something around 32768, so wrapping back to 0 can happen fairly often.

Given all the PIDs in the comic seem pretty low, it might even be as low as 1024 wherever this is.

(Yes, I know I'm taking this way too seriously.)

[-] NOT_RICK@lemmy.world 3 points 7 months ago

Using subqueries instead of CTEs, scrubs!

[-] 342345@feddit.de 2 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

Why do they wait in line for one guy? It's just a select and there should be multiple employees at the counter, or not?

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