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submitted 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) by lemmytellyousomething@lemmy.dbzer0.com to c/lemmy_instances@lemmy.ml

I'd describe myself as politically "center-left" and I go on the streets against the far-right in my country... Not "left" enough for the lemmy community hexbear(.)net, I guess, which banned me for "facism".

"Advertisement": Go to hexbear(.)net if you want to be able to say "Death to Israel" or "The situation in Gaza is like the holocaust" without getting banned. No, you even get a lot of likes and no one will say anything against that. No one will share arguments against yours. Why? Because those people will instead get banned.

At least, I have an explanation now... There is no one arguing against what is posted there, because everyone who tries, is getting banned.

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[-] velox_vulnus@lemmy.ml 12 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

Israel is a settler state, so what's wrong with the destruction of it? Israel is based on Ashkenazi supermacy ,which is a form of Jewish eurocentrism. Do you mind asking what has happened to the identity of Sephradic, Mizrahi and other independent groups?

Read this: Disillusioned with Israel, hundreds of Jews chose to return to India in the 1950s.

Also this: Israeli-Palestinian conflict fatality

[-] lemmytellyousomething@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

Israel is a settler state, so what's wrong with the destruction of it?

You know... I think that the best that can be done at this point is: Solving this forever. It has been decades. Trying to destroy Israel is exactly the motto of Hamas and exactly the idea that hasn't brought peace in the last decades and is also one of the reasons (not the only one) why the situation is terrible ATM.

There have been multiple attempts to attack Israel and the consequence was always death. Even more death outside of Israel.

IMO, the cycle needs to be broken. And IMO, this works only with government changes in both countries.

[-] velox_vulnus@lemmy.ml 7 points 7 months ago

Holocaust does not defend the fact that Israel is a settler state. As an Indian from the erstwhile province of Madras, we have faced artificial famines and genocide from the British colonizers. High-level British officers and politicians who did injustice on Indians were killed brutally by the Indian leftists, including bombing and shootings, and they're still worshiped to this day as heroes.

So, by that standard, it would be hypocritical of me to see Hamas as a terrorist group. Read about Subhash Chandra Bose, Udham Singh, Bhagat Singh and other socialists from India. I see nothing wrong with their goals. Although the socialists failed to liberate India, it set the message out there for the imperialists that this territory of undivided India is not a welcoming place for the settlers.

Holocaust does not defend the fact that Israel is a settler state

Holocaust??

BTW: I did not even argue against the settlements argument.

I see nothing wrong with their goals.

I think, the main difference between us is: I'm always thinking how a solution could look like. How to end this?

A solution works only with government changes in both countries and international pressure to get a 2-state-solution. That's my point.

[-] Omega_Haxors@lemmy.ml 8 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

Correction: worst place to be a fascist. They are ruthless and rightfully so.

Anticommunism is always profascism.

[-] boredtortoise@lemm.ee 7 points 7 months ago

There are also users who are too left to be accepted there

[-] lemmytellyousomething@lemmy.dbzer0.com 13 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

At this point, I'm not even sure what their interpretation of "left" actually means. But seeing so many "Death to Israel" posts with burning flags there was probably the most disgusting lemmy comments content I have seen so far. Maybe, I should block their domain in my router...

[-] mashbooq@infosec.pub 14 points 7 months ago

They're not left; they're Soviet conservatives. They LARP as leftists to sow chaos in the West

Well, that would explain why there were also a few "Death to America" comments.

[-] Omega_Haxors@lemmy.ml 3 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

Remember when I called you a cryptofascist infiltrator on your now-banned alt? Now you're leaving comments like this! Fucking called it!!!

[-] boredtortoise@lemm.ee 2 points 7 months ago

Yeah, going Israel on Israel won't really solve the existence of antisocial tyrannical behavior in the world.

[-] Omega_Haxors@lemmy.ml 4 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

Here. ๐Ÿ˜”

One of the biggest things I got in trouble for was arguing with Zeizek/Nietzsche apologists and the thing that did me in was call out one of the admin's crypto-leftism (that is, a brand of cryptofascism that I was on the front line for when it came out, where you use crypto to infiltrate the left) and the worst thing out of all of that is that they branded me as a reactionary (basically a Liberal) in the modlog when they banned me.

Also treated me like shit when I appealed, their behavior was so appalling that I actually picked up a supporter during all that. Basically what i'm trying to say is that lemmygrad is way better, have a lot of the same content and audience but way less cryptofash and baby leftist bullshit.

[-] 5714@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 7 months ago

Criticising hierarchies and power structures within leftist or revolutionary struggles gets you there very quickly.

[-] GolfNovemberUniform@lemmy.ml 5 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

Well that's how all communistic regimes are unfortunately. Nothing out of ordinary there

[-] Packet@lemmy.ml 1 points 7 months ago

Middle left? Sounds lotta liberal to me

[-] lemmytellyousomething@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

I'm from Germany.

We have more political options than just "conservative or liberal" here.

Liberalism is a political and moral philosophy based on the rights of the individual, liberty, consent of the governed, political equality, right to private property and equality before the law.

Am I liberal according to that? yes.

Liberty is the state of being free within society from oppressive restrictions imposed by authority on one's way of life, behavior, or political views.

Am I liberal according to that? yes.

But this applies probably to most of the people, probably also you.

We have a German party calling themselves the liberals (FDP) and they fight for a more liberal economy, e.g. less control through the state. Do I vote for them? No. Too much focus on the rich..

So, am I liberal in the end? Depends on how you define it.

Maybe center-left is a better word...

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