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Marc Benioff

He's the CEO and co-founder of San Francisco-based Salesforce, one of the world's largest software companies, which owns the popular messaging service Slack and is worth nearly $300 billion. He also owns Time magazine.

When I ask Benioff about the properties in the anonymous LLCs, things seem to take a turn. He starts speaking more quickly and fidgets with a piece of paper in his hand. He's reluctant to go through the holdings, and his adviser on the Zoom call jumps in to say we can discuss later.

A couple of days before the interview, Benioff texted the same NPR colleague again, asking for intel on my story. Then he called me and demanded to know the title of this piece. During that call, he also mentioned he knew the exact area where I was staying. Unnerved, I asked how he knew, and he said, "It's my job. You have a job and I have a job." During the interview, he brings up more personal details about me and my family.

I leave the meeting disconcerted and still unclear about what exactly is happening with his land in Waimea.

The following day, I drive around with a photographer to take pictures of the town and Benioff's projects. We go to the property he described as a community center and are confronted by one of his employees. The photographer explains we're there to take photos of the outside of the building. Shortly afterward, I get a text from Benioff. His employee seemed to think we were "snooping," and he says he's escalating the incident to NPR CEO John Lansing. Lansing confirmed he spoke with Benioff, without going into detail — the NPR newsroom operates independently, and the CEO is not involved in editorial decision-making. Benioff didn't respond to my question about the purpose of this call.

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[-] SinningStromgald@lemmy.world 151 points 2 years ago

There Is No Such Thing As A Good Billionaire. Every billionaire is a cancerous tumor that needs to be removed from society.

[-] DingoBilly@lemmy.world 21 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

? Bill Gates seems to be doing a good job and contributing pretty significantly to doing good.

If you make broad statements about every person in a category it hurts rather than helps your cause.

Edit: I've replied to many people below but noone has ready provided any strong counter arguments but keep downvoting. Not sure why, as again - everyone is just circlejerking themselves that billionaires are bad and should be killed without actually trying to have a decent discussion on the whole thing. At this point I assume people are just trolling as it seems unlikely so many people are unable to think it through logically.

[-] thecrotch@sh.itjust.works 89 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Bill Gates whose wife divorced him after it came out that he was on Epstein's plane? Or Bill Gates who spent like 30 years building a monopoly on anti-competitive tactics and used that position to ground any contenders into dust?

Trying to karmicly balance decades of being a shit stain by switching to altruism once you're old and rich isn't the same as being a good person.

[-] dylanmorgan@slrpnk.net 40 points 2 years ago

Or Bill Gates who promoted bullshit pseudoscience and encouraged African men to get circumcised as an “HIV prevention measure” which led to many men then skipping condoms, arguably making the HIV epidemic in Africa even worse?

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[-] FirstCircle@lemmy.ml 26 points 2 years ago

M$ under Gates was also hugely about shafting many of the engineering staff working there. These were the Permatemps, people who worked on site alongside ordinary employees, doing the same work, working for the same managers on big products you've heard of. But the Permatemps, and I was one of them, didn't work for M$, we worked for the most part as W2 employees of external staffing companies. OK salaries, basic benefits, but zero equity compensation or job security. Occasionally a permatemp would get hired as a M$ employee and that's probably what a lot of them were hoping for. I got a small pay-out from the Permatemp lawsuit settlement (see link above) while some of the regular employees around me became M$ Millionaires in their 20s, including my tech lead at the time. But at least I was allowed to shop at the Company Store and got a discount on my copy of Vista! Meanwhile Gates conserved huge amounts of equity and had a big staff he could fire at the drop of a hat, because he didn't technically employ us in the first place.

[-] SinningStromgald@lemmy.world 9 points 2 years ago

They are still doing this in some fashion because I see "Microsoft" jobs come up all the time but when you read the posting you are actually being hired by a staffing agency.

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[-] Noel_Skum@sh.itjust.works 12 points 2 years ago

That’s exactly it, as far as I’m concerned. Gates caused more harm by inflicting his monopoly on the world and stifling competition and innovation then he can undo with all his ill gotten gains. As for the Epstein link? JFC. I don’t even want to think about that... The only redeeming feature he has that made him appear closer to human was his ability to hurdle/jump an office chair in his younger days.

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[-] SinningStromgald@lemmy.world 40 points 2 years ago

Let me repeat myself so it sinks in ALL. BILLIONAIRES. ARE. BAD.

Billionaires are the tumorous growths from the cancer of capitalism and should be excised with the same urgency. None of them are "good" or "okay" until they cease existing. Eating them would be a kindness they are unworthy of.

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[-] PeePantsMcgee@lemm.ee 25 points 2 years ago

Aw shit..... My dude....he didn't stutter.....there are no good billionaires

[-] FilthyHookerSpit@lemmy.world 21 points 2 years ago

They have taken advantage of mechanisms that siphons money from the working class. By default they're not good people. Once you're old and aging, spending SOME of your massive fortune to try to leave a benevolent legacy, which in itself is selfish, does not make you a good person.

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[-] PowerCrazy@lemmy.ml 12 points 2 years ago

100% wrong in all ways. I'm not sure how hexbear does their macros but pretend I posted "shut the fuck up liberal" with Stalin's eye's glowing red.

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[-] JoMiran@lemmy.ml 116 points 2 years ago

The real story is the stupid shit he pulled by trying to bully and intimidate a reporter and a news organization.

[-] MonsiuerPatEBrown@reddthat.com 39 points 2 years ago

that's called staying a billionaire

[-] Gork@lemm.ee 80 points 2 years ago

During that call, he also mentioned he knew the exact area where I was staying. Unnerved, I asked how he knew, and he said, "It's my job. You have a job and I have a job."

So the tech CEO's job is... checks notes ...spying on journalists?

[-] Anticorp@lemmy.world 55 points 2 years ago

Are all of the properties connected? When Bill Gates built his house he used a bunch of shell companies to buy up all the lots that became his estate, so that the owners didn't realize there was a big project planned there by the richest man in the world and demand higher prices.

[-] Raiderkev@lemmy.world 17 points 2 years ago

Zuck did the same on Kauai

[-] Anticorp@lemmy.world 23 points 2 years ago

Unlimited money and still pulling shenanigans so that they don't have to pay it to other people.

[-] Raiderkev@lemmy.world 25 points 2 years ago

What's worse is he bought the land that native Hawaiians got as their birthright, but said native Hawaiians were poor and desperate, so they sold it to him. They didn't know that they were selling to one of the richest people on the planet who could afford to pay them more. I don't think Zuck is well liked by the locals out there.

[-] Anticorp@lemmy.world 15 points 2 years ago

Fuckerberg isn't liked by anyone.

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[-] MrFappy@lemmy.world 48 points 2 years ago

So this guy is going full Bond villain and no one but this reporter is calling him on it, got it.

[-] Rookwood@lemmy.world 46 points 2 years ago

And he's trying to intimidate the reporter by threatening her family and her job.

[-] gibmiser@lemmy.world 42 points 2 years ago

Gee, way to not act suspicious. Guess he is all in on intimidation as a means of control.

[-] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 29 points 2 years ago

You act like this wouldn't work on literally every other major media outlet besides NPR...

The billionaire club is a small club, we're not in it and they don't give a single fuck about all of us out together.

[-] thecrotch@sh.itjust.works 9 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Billionaires don't need to intimidate NPR, they own it. Have you seen the list of sponsors? Carnagie. Rockefeller. Walton. The list is on their website, it's chock full of names like that. You ever wonder why NPR always tows the DNC party line, practically word for word? It's because NPR and the DNC have the same bosses. This guy's mistake was not being on that list.

[-] pingveno@lemmy.ml 36 points 2 years ago

Just what the people of Hawaii need, another rich person snatching up precious land on an island that already has a high cost of living.

CEO is not involved in editorial decision-making

Heh, I love it when a rich idiot gets shut down by some good ol' journalistic ethics. "No, you are not special, Mr. Benioff."

[-] Semi-Hemi-Demigod@kbin.social 28 points 2 years ago

Shout out to that NPR reporter for not being intimidated

[-] Red_October@lemmy.world 24 points 2 years ago
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[-] UraniumBlazer@lemm.ee 21 points 2 years ago

New special sex island?

[-] Madison420@lemmy.world 21 points 2 years ago

Isn't this super obvious, he's going to try to buy the island wholesale make it private and declare tacit sovereignity like he's a dole or some shit.

[-] tempest@lemmy.ca 17 points 2 years ago

He is probably just jealous of Larry Ellison

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[-] ehrik@lemmy.world 14 points 2 years ago

Man is he the reason Salesforce has a weird "Hawaiian" theme in their offices.

[-] Blackout@kbin.social 10 points 2 years ago

Rich people just doing what they always done. Kick indigenous peoples off their land and give them STDs.

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