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[-] apfelwoiSchoppen@lemmy.world 63 points 8 months ago

It is seriously past time to have another serious Linux OS compete with Android.

[-] mlg@lemmy.world 10 points 8 months ago

Fr this crap has been corporatized long enough. Haven't seen anything great since android 7 and 8.

Not to mention the dalvik runs like a joke by modern standards. Really underutilizing modern hardware by running everything in locked down ultra battery saver java.

I wish even some Chinese company would fund a big OS project given that they have the resources and market where Google can't effectively compete.

Been nothing but reskins and useless forks for a while now.

[-] abhibeckert@lemmy.world 5 points 8 months ago

It's not just about saving battery. Phone chips are fast but they lack appropriate cooling and overheat real fast if you try to take advantage of that performance for more tham a moment.

[-] mlg@lemmy.world 3 points 8 months ago

Yeah except Apple has been doing just fine with swift and proper app pausing for years.

~~Everything~~ App elements in android reset whenever you swap apps for more than a few minutes. Even all the default gapps do this. They can't seem to hold a context menu open or keep a page loaded when in the background because apparently these elements don't get saved.

I think the only thing on my phone that has stayed consistent is Firefox, and I can only assume it's because they hacked their way around this by having its own custom saved state since it's a browser.

We're not bottlenecked so hard for storage or memory anymore, there's really no need to keep enforcing this select feature saved state default.

Android already uses zram and yet OEMs are still shipping with an additional swap switch because these java apps eat an atrocious amount of memory.

I can load a fully decked out compiz desktop with a 3D transparent cube and every window animation imaginable and the ram stays at 1.6 GB. Yet android struggles to stay under 2 at idle on a 2d homescreen.

[-] latetolemmy@lemmy.world 3 points 8 months ago

Linus is so far behind the competition that it's not even funny. I don't need a broken bored system that can't even do a simple photo edit without crashing the system. No thanks, no loonkeks for me

[-] apfelwoiSchoppen@lemmy.world 1 points 8 months ago

Show me you haven't used Linux without telling me.

[-] simonced@lemmy.one 50 points 8 months ago

I don't need AI in my f*ing phone! It's just a phone, FFS!

[-] myplacedk@lemmy.world 10 points 8 months ago

If it's "just a phone", it's not running Android. No Android that I ever heard of is "just a phone".

[-] simonced@lemmy.one 3 points 8 months ago

What I meant is that I use it just as a phone (a bit more useful yes).
Calls, sms/messages/emails, music and some pictures rarely.
That's it.

[-] JohnEdwa@sopuli.xyz 7 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

Then you can save a lot of money next time and buy something like a Nokia 2760. It does all of those for like $30.

[-] Bye@lemmy.world 6 points 8 months ago

I think I’d like it

Honestly the worst part of my phone is the phone itself.

Dropped calls, bad audio, spam.

It's more of a texting/camera/notepad for me

[-] SomeGuy69@lemmy.world 28 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

Can't wait to see it randomly eat a lot of my battery, because the AI package decided to calculate something. Oh and those gigabyte of storage just being hooked by the OS for nothing. Also that constant data fishing for "security" or convince and totally not for surveillance.

People forget that there's still a huge difference if multiple company have different data, without context or data with a whole profile, all at once, all analyzed on the fly and compared to other people. You know why they want that? You can basically predict the future at this point. We don't even need to vote anymore, if they know everything about you. The danger of data emerges by its consolidation. This is very critical to understand.

It doesn't even matter if I personally switch to a degoogled phone, if 99,9999% of the people don't. I might as well not do the effort.

[-] BeerMedic@lemmy.world 3 points 8 months ago

I'm in the 99,9999%

[-] brlemworld@lemmy.world 1 points 8 months ago

Read the book Firewall.

[-] JoMomma@lemm.ee 24 points 8 months ago

Never before has "genius" needed to be in quotes more than in the headline

[-] OccamsRazer@lemmy.world 14 points 8 months ago

I've never used an iPhone, been a die hard android user since the beginning, but I might switch because of this. I don't care about AI and don't want it on my phone.

[-] Aabbcc@lemm.ee 10 points 8 months ago

Lmao I have ad free YouTube, twitch, and reddit. Not giving that up because I'm scared of an app

[-] Unforeseen@sh.itjust.works 9 points 8 months ago

You are going to need to go with something other then apple if you don't want it in your phone. All thier plans are around adding it.

https://www.techradar.com/phones/iphone/apples-ai-upgrades-for-your-iphone-are-reportedly-on-track-for-2024-heres-what-to-expect

I feel your pain as I'm in the same bind.

[-] phillaholic@lemm.ee 2 points 8 months ago

Most of Apple’s AI will run on device and not online, so that’s something.

[-] OccamsRazer@lemmy.world 2 points 8 months ago

Yeah I suppose they would hop on as well. The idea that my experience would be tailored according to unknown algorithm and agenda kind of scares me.

[-] EddieTee77@lemmy.world 4 points 8 months ago

Looks like Android devices are your future because you can put a different ROM on it and avoid the issues (potentially)

[-] OccamsRazer@lemmy.world 2 points 8 months ago

I haven't dabbled with that stuff for years, but I could go back to that as well I suppose.

[-] DreamlandLividity@lemmy.world 8 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

I just keep getting happier and happier with my choice to use GrapheneOS.

[-] then_three_more@lemmy.world 13 points 8 months ago

Wake me up when it's as useful as Google Now. Not that it will, like assistant it'll get dropped and Google will move onto the next shiny thing before it does.

[-] db2@lemmy.world 8 points 8 months ago

Ask it which is better Android or iOS so it can take a weird middle ground for no reason.

[-] snooggums@midwest.social 6 points 8 months ago

They just want to kill my battery.

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